Anyone ever seen this throatless shear or have info on it?

Aki Kolbrandssen · Post by **Aki Kolbrandssen** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 9:49 am

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41958&item=3840788935&rd=1

Anyone got any info on this shear or the company that is shipping them?

Fulk · Post by **Fulk** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 10:15 am

I'm not positive but I'd say its equivalent to the Harbor Feight B-1 knockoff.

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Aki Kolbrandssen · Post by **Aki Kolbrandssen** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 10:55 am

That is what i am wondering. I know there have been issues with the Harbor Freight version. I am wondering whether this is another company getting into the market or just resale for the HF model.

Galfrid atte grene · Post by **Galfrid atte grene** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:24 am

Looks exactlly like my HF.

Aidan Cambel · Post by **Aidan Cambel** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:47 am

Looks exactly like my HF too, right down to the green rubber cap on the end of the handle.

It looks like there is some wear on it, especially on the back edge of the bottom.

You can get this from harborfreight for $94.99

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/D ... mber=38413

Ezzlain · Post by **Ezzlain** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:30 pm

I have seen that exact same auction over and over since April or so. I have been looking at trying to pick up a throatless shear and it keeps coming up all the time.

Aki Kolbrandssen · Post by **Aki Kolbrandssen** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 2:29 pm

Thanks for the heads up. Not only selling the HF shears without naming them but upping the price by 30 bucks. Mankind is a funny beast.

Angus Bjornssen · Post by **Angus Bjornssen** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 9:03 pm

now here is the ultimate question... can you actually mount BEVERLY B1 blades on the HF shear? if you can then there is no reason to buy a BEV, only the blades and an HF. If not, and I suspect this is so, then we are all where we began to begin with and this device is (assuming it is an HF) either A- modified or B- an out and out lie. :roll:

the secondary question is: if the HF cannot mount BEV B1 blades in it's original configuration, can it be modified to do so without risking structural damage to the shear? conversely, could BEV blades be modified to fit an HF without risking excessive weakening of the blades?

anyone? anyone?

imagine the possibilities... :shock:

Dragos · Post by **Dragos** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 9:57 pm

The HF is the same as the beverly Jr. not the B1, The B1 blades are to big unless you grind them down and than you need to re-temper them if you do.

This is what AB Hammer has told people for a couple of years, he use to use a Jr. before He got his B1, so many years ago.

Dragos

Angus Bjornssen · Post by **Angus Bjornssen** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 10:30 pm

Dragos, since in all my searching for Bev products I have not seen or heard mention of the Bev Jr, do you know if it is still in production and if so, are the blades available and if so, are they compatible with the HFK (harbor freight knockoff) with or without modification of blade or shear?

This leads me back to a modified version of the original question: can higher quality blades be bought for the HFK from Beverly or any other source? "higher quality" meaning of better quality than available from HF.

Konstantin the Red · Post by **Konstantin the Red** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 3:52 am

Angus, I hear that the HF shear's brand replacement blades seem of better quality than the ones that come with the shears -- less proneness to chipping.

Some people with forges have reported success drawing the temper of the factory-delivered blades and redoing the heat-treat -- or maybe just cooking the blades to a somewhat softer temper. The problem seems to be that the in-box shear blades come a little too hard.

AB Hammer · Post by **AB Hammer** » Mon Sep 20, 2004 10:22 pm

The Beverly JR hasn't been in production for about 12 years but there still may be parts for it at the Beverly factory. You would just have to call, and I cant tell you if they are interchangable but it is the same size otherwise. I have toned up about 8 of the HF shears and there not bad after that.

AB Hammer

Krag · Post by **Krag** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 8:06 am

Anyone baked HF blades at about 475*F for a couple hours to see if it makes any difference? I'm guessing it's A2 or A6 steel for the blades.

Sigeric · Post by **Sigeric** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 11:27 am

Just as an FYI... that particular seller seems to buy a lot of HF merchandise and resells them for a higher price. Even a number of the pictures he uses come directly from the HF online web site.