stainless steel welded mail

Mercator · Post by **Mercator** » Tue Dec 18, 2001 1:30 pm

I admit freely that I am a horrible, inauthentic person. Does any one know where I can buy welded stainless steel mail fabric to hang from my coat of plates? I hardly have time for this at all, so low maintainance is what I want.

Sebastian K · Post by **Sebastian K** » Tue Dec 18, 2001 1:40 pm

There is a company here in Germany that does this sort of thing, a whole shirt runs around 500$ depending on size. The rings are stainless and every one of them is welded shut. Let me know what you need, and I will get you prices and shipping options

Sebastian

Arland · Post by **Arland** » Tue Dec 18, 2001 3:16 pm

Another person and I bought some of these shirts awhile ago. We've had no problem at all with the .8mm wire ones. The only problem besides shipping is arms. They tend to run a bit larger than requested. Not a huge problem, but worth mentioning.

Thaddeus · Post by **Thaddeus** » Tue Dec 18, 2001 5:19 pm

I have been fighting SCA in one of these for just under a year now and have had no problems. I agree the arms are a bit wider than I had imagined them but not awful on the whole. Their web site seems to be down, does anyone know of a new one?

sarnac · Post by **sarnac** » Tue Dec 18, 2001 5:44 pm

Ok...I anm REAL interested in this.....

Does anyone have pics???

Baron Logan · Post by **Baron Logan** » Wed Dec 19, 2001 9:27 am

Hey Sarnac,

I'll be at Valday with mine. Everyone I've shown it to has been amazed. Fought in it at the Pennsic Pas and got rocked a few time without any problems. It was great.

The shipping will kill you, but its been worth it for me.

Logan

sarnac · Post by **sarnac** » Wed Dec 19, 2001 10:17 am

Hey Logan...

Season of the Wolf is the same day in Sarnia and will be a very cool event....plus its My Kingdom...PLUS...my Wife is getting elevated to the Order of the Laurel at Season of the Wolf....Sooooooooooo...I think that If I were to go to Val Day...I would need to find a new place to live

So I am not gonna be there.

Some other time maybe???

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Lord Charles · Post by **Lord Charles** » Wed Dec 19, 2001 1:57 pm

I currently have a full length full sleeved welded stainless steel shirt made by Master Knut for sale.

E-mail me if your interested, its quite reasonable.

Take Care

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Chuck Davis · Post by **Chuck Davis** » Wed Dec 19, 2001 2:48 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Lord Charles:
I currently have a full length full sleeved welded stainless steel shirt made by Master Knut for sale.

E-mail me if your interested, its quite reasonable.

Take Care

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm interested. Email sent.
-Cad

Arland · Post by **Arland** » Wed Dec 19, 2001 3:43 pm

Below is the link the German site (in English) that sells the welded stainless maille.

I'll try and post a picture of two of their shirt tonight when I get a chance to mess around with Yahoo.com. The price list they sent me 2 months ago is the same one they sent out last year.

http://www.ziegler-metallgewebe.de/englisch.htm

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Arland · Post by **Arland** » Wed Dec 19, 2001 6:16 pm

This will not obligate you any way, but I'm putting in another order for the shirts. I'd just like to get a show of hands on who wants them and can send money. The last time they gave a 10% discount for ordering more than 5 shirts. Right now, I've got two people who are 100% positive they are going to buy a shirt. You can either post here or shoot me an email. Again when I get a chance I'm going to up load the price chart and the a factory pictures. I'll also put up a couple of the shirt I got.

Bear in mind that with the fluctuation in the US Dollar vs the Euro prices will vary until the shop locks us in on price. No one is making a profit here except the guys in Germany who produce these. So if the shirt costs $475 right now, it may cost $500 or even $450 next month.

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Arland · Post by **Arland** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 10:33 am

http://www.geocities.com/fitzlaughlyn/german_maille.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/fitzlaughlyn/email_pe.xls
http://www.geocities.com/fitzlaughlyn/h950_1_b.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/fitzlaughlyn/DSC00440.JPG

Ok here are three pictures and the spread sheet on the prices. You will need to add a question mark to the end of the url when it pops up ( ? )

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Joe Skeesick · Post by **Joe Skeesick** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 10:44 am

Those are really nice shirts Arland. Wish I could participate. Maybe after the move but right now its just not going to happen. Best of luck getting your order together.

J

Arland · Post by **Arland** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 1:03 pm

Thanks, I don't think it will be a problem. I can only hope I get it together before the war.

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Derian le Breton · Post by **Derian le Breton** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 1:16 pm

Is the maille hanging the right way? It almost looks like it's turned 90 degrees from how it should be...

Any chance you could post another photo, with a point of reference (like the center seam on the dummy)?

-Donasian.

Arland · Post by **Arland** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 1:23 pm

Yea, I'll post a picture of mine after lunch. The large picture with dummy is what they sent me. The maille does indeed hang correctly. You just can't see it very well on the dummy. The sleeves hang lengthwise. Thus if you arm is straight out, it's going to be parallel to the shirt.

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Arland · Post by **Arland** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 2:06 pm

http://www.geocities.com/fitzlaughlyn/DSC00440.JPG

Ok. Here's a new picture of my maille. You can see the maille hangs down your body. Please note that the picture of my maille is the small shinny rings, the factory picuture is of the large rings.

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Mercator · Post by **Mercator** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 2:28 pm

Your Excellency,
I get "page not found" when I click on your links.

Derian le Breton · Post by **Derian le Breton** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 4:04 pm

Ahh, thanks very much, that's a great deal clearer!

What are the wire and rings diameters the rings in your shirt?

I'll be interested after the holidays.

-Donasian.

Arland · Post by **Arland** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 4:10 pm

The rings I have are the 7mm OD with .8mm wire. The larger sized (and more expensive) are 10mm (I think it's OD, though I've not seen it) with 1.2mm wire.

Sorry for some reason the links need to have a "?" on the end of them. I'll try and fix it.

Arland · Post by **Arland** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 4:15 pm

Sorry can't seem to fix it.

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Mercator · Post by **Mercator** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 5:16 pm

The "?" fixed it. About how much did you pay for shipping per pound? How much does the shirt in the picture on the dummy weigh? Finally, I get the sense that you're a big guy, is that true? I'm just trying to figure out how much my "pieces of mail fabric" are going to cost to ship.

I *wish* I could order a whole shirt. Maybe next year.

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Lord Charles · Post by **Lord Charles** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 5:26 pm

I have got a lot of e-mail requests for specs on the Master Knut shirt I have available.

If your interested all of the info about this piece can be found on the "garage sale" page at my site.

Take Care

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Lord Charles DeCordené
Fyrd, Mallet, Torse (Calontir)
Squire of the body, Sir Donatto El Lobo

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Thaddeus · Post by **Thaddeus** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 10:11 pm

The size on the larger rings is 10mm OD. I do not have access to my server or images right now but can put them up in the morning.
Arland any idea what their roman shirt looks like? Curious to know if anyone ordered one.

Arland · Post by **Arland** » Thu Dec 20, 2001 11:30 pm

Postal costs the same as it would from New York. So not much really. The only way I ship things is insured. Anyway I'm 6'2" and 215.

Sorry, but I've never seen there Roman shirts.

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Derian le Breton · Post by **Derian le Breton** » Thu Dec 27, 2001 11:55 am

Well it's after the holidays (sort of), and I'm still interested.

-Donasian.

Arland · Post by **Arland** » Thu Dec 27, 2001 3:28 pm

Have a look at the price sheet and figure out why type of you shirt you want, what type of finish, what size of rings and what not.

Email that to my online account of

fitzlaughlyn@yahoo.com

I'll put together the suggested order and see what I can get for a large order discount and what not. So that I'm not misleading people in any way shape or form, I'll go over how I get this stuff.

Step one: Receive orders and establish contact with friends in Germany.
Step two: Receive payment and ship out to Germany via registered mail.
a. Payment may be made by check, money order, or Paypal. Payment must be in full prior to the purchase of the shirt, to include estimated monetary exchange rate and a shipping. All extra money will be returned to the buyer with shirt by form of check or Paypal.
Step three: Shirt will be shipped out to buyer insured (US Postal or UPS).
a. Shirt may also be delivered by person or any other arranged means.

I understand this asking for some faith up front on everyone's part. But I'm not making any profit on this. I'm just acting as the middle man. The best way I can put it is, if you don't like how I'm doing it, make a suggestion that doesn't involve my money and I'll see what I can do. Alternately you could contact someone in Germany to act as the middleman for you.

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Arland · Post by **Arland** » Wed Jan 02, 2002 6:09 pm