Alternative non-round center grip shields

Curt B. · Post by **Curt B.** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:33 pm

Hello,

I am in a state of flux when it comes to shield shapes. I like center grip shields, but I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t really care for round shields. I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t like really big shields either.

I would like to create a Ã¢â‚¬Å“wavyÃ¢â‚¬Â

Russ Mitchell · Post by **Russ Mitchell** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:44 pm

What I *can* tell you is that, gradually, many of the things we take as artistic convention later are shown to exist. Not all, but quite a number. My wife did her dissertation on this very topic.

Jean Paul de Sens · Post by **Jean Paul de Sens** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 5:27 pm

Check out Gaston's:

http://vieuxchamps.com/pics/fighting/si ... _p32_1.jpg
http://vieuxchamps.com/pics/fighting/si ... _p32_2.jpg

I think they are awesome...

JP

InsaneIrish · Post by **InsaneIrish** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 5:33 pm

There are also examples of a center grip heater shield.

one heater shield the same size as a center grip round.

Cut hole in center
add shield boss
add center grip

wala you have sheild. And it is period. This is what I plan on using with my later period rig. That way I can still use a sheild style I am familiar with and still be period.

Curt B. · Post by **Curt B.** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 5:41 pm

I am familiar with Sir Gaston's shields.

I believe the first is a copy of a tournament (jousting) shield design, and the second has a pavaise sp? theme to it.

Do you think it would be possible to try and copy the blue shield (in the illumination) to the best of my ability (in terms of its actual shape and construction) without naysayers automatically calling it non-period?

I was trying to look for more examples of those type of curved-like center grip shields from period sources if any more are known to exist. Thanks.

Curt B. · Post by **Curt B.** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:22 pm

I just got through making a small aluminum centergrip heater, dished slightly inward , with a shield boss. I like how it feels and I look forward to trying it out.

Thorstenn · Post by **Thorstenn** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:22 pm

hey talon good to see you at yule in oldenfeld fun fights.

as to the shield's both of Duke Gaston's shields are period and done very nicely. Its crazy but he is better with the small one I think he got it from the I.33 doc. (i think). its aluminium and welded down the middle.

Thorstenn

Curt B. · Post by **Curt B.** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 1:32 pm

Hey Thorstenn,

I think you got the better of me that day. You have really improved a lot. And Gaston and Baldar wore me out too.

Hew · Post by **Hew** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 10:30 pm

Talontwoswords wrote:I am familiar with Sir Gaston's shields.

I believe the first is a copy of a tournament (jousting) shield design, and the second has a pavaise sp? theme to it.

The second one looks a lot like these:

Also see this one:

Leaning more towards "wavy bucklers" or "wavy targets" (both from Achille Marozzo, I think):

and

The grips in the 1st, 3rd, and 4th images are vertical, attached to short crossbars like the letter "I".

The entire 4-part essay The Sword & Buckler Tradition starts at http://www.thearma.org/essays/SwordandBuckler.htm .

Curt B. · Post by **Curt B.** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:45 am

Wonderful pictures Hew!

Thanks a lot. I was wondering how these particular shields were held. Looks like a similar method to Gastons.

I was kinda thinking of making a pavaise for melee combat. This will help.

The small centergrip heater I just made appears to function extremely well.

Thanks again.

Ceddie · Post by **Ceddie** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:10 am

Talon, your center grip heater was a lot of fun last weekend at practice, I gotta get me one-a-dem-dear-thingies. the range and footwork were a challenge.