Sir Gaston -- Musketeer SCA Heavy Kit

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:58 pm

Sir Gaston,

Could you please e-mail me all your pictures of your SCA list-legal Musketeer kit? We have a young lady here who would like to follow in your footsteps.

My e-mail address is miaullis@yahoo.com

Thanks,

Aaron Miaullis

Lord Ogier · Post by **Lord Ogier** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:03 pm

I could be wrong but aren't the musketeers out of period for the SCA? I.E. Post 1601...

Just curious.

Effingham · Post by **Effingham** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:08 pm

Indeed they are.

Effingham

Henry of Bexley · Post by **Henry of Bexley** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:33 pm

My guess is, we're talking cavalier, not muskateer... could be wrong though.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:39 pm

The Armada Campaign, 1588 AD

http://www.ospreypublishing.com/title_d ... 18&ser=ELI

In the latter part of the 16th century, Spain was the major international power and her leader, King Phillip II, pledged to conquer the Protestant heretics in England. He envisioned a two pronged attack. He would send his Ã¢â‚¬ËœInvincible ArmadaÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ of 125 ships into the English Channel where it would link up with the Duke of Parma. The Armada would ferry the Duke's soldiers across the straight of Dover and these troops would march on London, seize the Queen, and proceed to conquer the entire country. Over 400 years have passed since this momentous expedition 'sailed and failed', but its fascination and significance remain undiminished.

Gerhard von Liebau · Post by **Gerhard von Liebau** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:45 pm

Horradrick wrote:My guess is, we're talking cavalier, not muskateer... could be wrong though.

Not to be rude, but considering the obvious differences between the two, I don't think a user like Aaron would likely mix those up, or virtually any user, for that matter...

-Gregory-

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:53 pm

http://www.ospreypublishing.com/title_d ... 18&ser=ELI

The Armada Campaign 1588

In the latter part of the 16th century, Spain was the major international power and her leader, King Phillip II, pledged to conquer the Protestant heretics in England. He envisioned a two pronged attack. He would send his Ã¢â‚¬ËœInvincible ArmadaÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ of 125 ships into the English Channel where it would link up with the Duke of Parma. The Armada would ferry the Duke's soldiers across the straight of Dover and these troops would march on London, seize the Queen, and proceed to conquer the entire country. Over 400 years have passed since this momentous expedition 'sailed and failed', but its fascination and significance remain undiminished.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:58 pm

Gregory J. Liebau wrote:
Horradrick wrote:My guess is, we're talking cavalier, not muskateer... could be wrong though.

Not to be rude, but considering the obvious differences between the two, I don't think a user like Aaron would likely mix those up, or virtually any user, for that matter...

-Gregory-

Gregory,

When it comes to History, the more I learn, the more I learn how ignorant I am. I often suffer from cranial-rectal inversion when it comes to history (or frankly a lot of issues). But, I conditionally accept the --however incorrect -- compliment because I need an ego boost. :wink:

Please don't think that I'm any expert on anything in history.

I was using a general term "Musketeer" because the question asked by this young lady was general about how to armour up, and her interest in the "Musketeer" books by Duras (she read them, and hasn't seen the movies!!)

I was asking mostly on Sir Gaston's kit rather than the authenticity angle, as an example of well-done, visually appealing SCA armouring for late, late period SCA with two sword (or sword and dagger).

-Aaron

Gerhard von Liebau · Post by **Gerhard von Liebau** » Wed Dec 29, 2004 10:39 pm

Lol, Aaron,

I wasn't implying you had the makings of a history professor, of course, but rather that being my usual user-observant self, I've noted that you seem like a pretty bright guy, and I was sure you wouldn't make such a silly mistake as that, since I knew you were talking about this some time ago, as well (in the previous thread that you just got popped up again from February).

I hope the young lady there finds something she can cook up! The "Sea Dogs" definitely looks worth looking into!

Cheers!

-Gregory-

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Thu Dec 30, 2004 1:29 am

Gregory J. Liebau wrote:Lol, Aaron,

I wasn't implying you had the makings of a history professor, of course, but rather that being my usual user-observant self, I've noted that you seem like a pretty bright guy, and I was sure you wouldn't make such a silly mistake as that, since I knew you were talking about this some time ago, as well (in the previous thread that you just got popped up again from February).

I hope the young lady there finds something she can cook up! The "Sea Dogs" definitely looks worth looking into!

Cheers!

-Gregory-

I hope so!

She's in the US Navy...

-Aaron

Konstantin the Red · Post by **Konstantin the Red** » Thu Dec 30, 2004 2:59 am

If anyone's blinking at "Duras," seems they should read "Dumas" instead.

Oh, and it's much cooler to pronounce it "du-mah" than "dum-ass." Though I did once run across a Navy petty officer of that name who pronounced it like "Doumiss"... weird things happen in some back-bayou Louisiana counties, I suppose.

Eric · Post by **Eric** » Thu Dec 30, 2004 8:31 am

A musketeer is a soldier who uses a musket(~.75 and required a musket rest) as opposed to a caliver(~.50). Muskets were more likely to pieced armour but the caliver was lighter and could be used for hunting. Musketeers in the English Army wore no armour and the calivers wore a Jack of plates/Brigandine/maybe a peascod, with a morion helm. Calivers made up the bulk of the "shot". The musketeer is very much in period, the Three Musketeers however...

Chris Gilman · Post by **Chris Gilman** » Thu Dec 30, 2004 12:52 pm

When I first started in the SCA (1979) the cut off date was not clear. I was told 1650. So, since I had not seen anyone in later period clothes or armour, Gaston Bonneville de la Croix it was. Remember, I started in Atenveldt; no one dressed in anything later than crusader.
The first armour made in 1980, was a coat lined with pockets. In theses pockets where many small (3Ã¢â‚¬Â

Josh W · Post by **Josh W** » Thu Dec 30, 2004 1:51 pm

Gaston, I love you, man; those kits are inspiring...

...but you've gotta stop typing "where" when you mean "were". It's confusing!

Chris Gilman · Post by **Chris Gilman** » Thu Dec 30, 2004 5:58 pm

Spelling was never my strong point.
But I can build anything I can't spell!

Ringlancer · Post by **Ringlancer** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 1:03 pm

Sir Gaston was the first knight I ever fought in the SCA.

He was wearing his Cavalier kit, MK III.

It was at Lyondemere anniversary, 1987.

He one shot me. It was my first tourney...I was wearing carpet armour, a barrel helm and had a flat heater. My arms and legs were made out of conveyer belts and sporting goods.

He was my second bout. My first was against Eichlinn. Stupid fighter though: Snort! I'm fighting a GIRL!?!? That learned me, real quick!

The warm up was a grand melee where Sir Dietrich (Now Duke) legged me and walked away, without breaking stride. I spent the rest of the battle chasing him on my knees. I briefly surprised him as he was engaged with someone else. Suffice to say he killed me in short order after that.

A very memorable day. I'm happy to have fought Sir Gaston in pickups at Estrella and beside him at Pennsic with the Company of St. Michael.

mrks · Post by **mrks** » Sun Jan 02, 2005 4:32 pm

thanks for that bit of history gaston

well written.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Sun Jan 02, 2005 6:49 pm

Sir Gaston,

Thank you for all the information, and the enjoyable trip down into History. It was great!

The young lady already is talking about going "Sea Dog", and I'll get the information over to her and pictures.

The pictures really, really make the case. You look so relaxed and casual...and you're in armour.

Thanks!

-Aaron