Finished Klapvisor Bascinet

Erik · Post by **Erik** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:08 pm

Well, folks, just finished my first bascinet project for my client, Donovan, from up in Canada. I thought I would post the pics on the archive and get some feedback!

Erik · Post by **Erik** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:09 pm

....and here is the same bascinet with its bargrill visor

Magnus The Black · Post by **Magnus The Black** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:11 pm

Awesome!

Klaus the Red · Post by **Klaus the Red** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:20 pm

Ooh, that's darn purty. It's very nice to see oculars in period (as opposed to 1/2" SCA-legal) width. Is that a Brian Price hinge?

Klaus

Erik · Post by **Erik** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:25 pm

Yes, that is a Brian Price hinge. I am VERY fortunate to live within a few miles of his shop...although I have yet to try to meet him in person.

Steve S. · Post by **Steve S.** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:41 pm

Beautiful. I also very much like the riveted-together bargrill.

Steve

Mike F · Post by **Mike F** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:00 pm

Is that stainless? It has an odd sheen to it. It could just be the lighting, though.

Very, very nice. Gimme.

Gerhard von Liebau · Post by **Gerhard von Liebau** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 11:57 pm

Being completely honest, after all of my wanderings through the World Wide Web, I've never seen a more beautiful globose face-plated klappvisor bascinet in all of my travels! :shock:

-Gregory-

Halberds · Post by **Halberds** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:03 am

That is very nice.

Did A-Bob help you with that?

Thanks for the pics.

Hal

Karl · Post by **Karl** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:21 am

Quite sincerely that is a better design than the brand-new Anshelm Arms bascinet that I just bought a week ago.

Louis de Leon · Post by **Louis de Leon** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:22 am

Stunning. Love every single thing about it. You even made a bargrill look cool.

Ebonbane · Post by **Ebonbane** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:50 am

That is incredible!! Thanks for posting such a beautiful piece, I'm going to add the picture to my wish list

Gerhard von Liebau · Post by **Gerhard von Liebau** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:54 am

Yeah, on that note... I collect pictures in image folders on my PC of helmets from all over the internet, and Erik's Wenceslaus, Coppergate and now both of these images are in my "Others" folder in the front. With a couple more nice helmets like these, he'll have enough to have a full folder to himself, like Adam and some of the other guys:p

-Gregory-

Erik · Post by **Erik** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:53 am

Mike F: Nope...it is mild steel, but thanks for thinking it's stainless!

Gregory J. Liebau: Thank you for the many compliments. BTW, I love your website!

Halberds: Armour Bob did provide some valuable techical advice OH and the use of his shop for a day :wink:

. He had been a wonderful teacher and I owe hime a lot of gratitude.

Thank you all for the positive feedback. Please feel free to visit the rest of the website. There are more projects on the horizon...

white mountain armoury · Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:47 am

very nice, nice lines, and very clean

Otto von Teich · Post by **Otto von Teich** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:51 am

Wow, thats a sweet bascinet. Also the best looking bargrill I've ever seen. If more looked like that, the world would be a better place...Otto

Padrig · Post by **Padrig** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:35 pm

A agree, beautiful! I also think it is one of the best looking bar grill I've seen.

Thanks for sharing.

Pad

St. George · Post by **St. George** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:25 pm

Hi,

Many people have commented on how much they like the bargrill on this helmet? Might I ask why? Do people like the shape? Do they find it to be more "period" aesthetically?

Personally I don't like the center ridge, or riveted on grills. My personal preference is for the style eldrid tremayne (from atlantia) makes.

Thanks for posting the work. The shape of the helm and visor are wonderful. Your client is very lucky indeed to be receiving this.

Alaric

Mike F · Post by **Mike F** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:50 pm

Wow. Nice job finishing it, then.

Gerhard von Liebau · Post by **Gerhard von Liebau** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 3:04 pm

Many people have commented on how much they like the bargrill on this helmet? Might I ask why? Do people like the shape? Do they find it to be more "period" aesthetically?

Oops, I read the question wrong. Sorry!

I actually don't like bargrills:D I thought he asked about the visor...

-Gregory-

Padrig · Post by **Padrig** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 3:33 pm

Well, for me, the curves at the top and bottom of the center ridge to make the transition with the attaching points gives it a more graceful look, les "bargrilly". Makes sense?

Pad

Ebonbane · Post by **Ebonbane** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:58 pm

I don't usually like bargrills, I know they are required but they almost always look like a metal facemask on a football helmet. Erik's lines, plus the riveted attachments to the lifting visor just look more like a medieval piece to me. I agree with Gregory also, I love the brass trim on the faceplate!!
Just my two cents.... Sean

Louis de Leon · Post by **Louis de Leon** » Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:00 pm

DukeAlaric wrote:Many people have commented on how much they like the bargrill on this helmet? Might I ask why? Do people like the shape? Do they find it to be more "period" aesthetically?

To me, a lot of bargrills look almost exactly like football masks. This one doesn't. The center bar removes some of the football-iness from the grill. The attachment method also looks more like armour to my eye.

Erik · Post by **Erik** » Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:27 pm

Well, I must give credit to the client for this helmet, Donovan. He gave some wonderful input and insight regarding the design for the bargrill visor. Personally, I liked the design for the mask because it is much sturdier than other simple bargrill visors I have worked on in the past. Honestly, I am considering using elements of this design in future visors :wink:

Gerhard von Liebau · Post by **Gerhard von Liebau** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:43 am

Erik, although hopefully my next big purchase will be for some top-secret SCA gear from Uilleag, I'm hoping I'll be able to get one of your helmets in the near future! I would really, really, really love a very similar version of your Wenceslaus helmet, if the price stays about the same in the coming months!

Adieu!

-Gregory-

Kel Rekuta · Post by **Kel Rekuta** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:28 am

Erik wrote:Well, I must give credit to the client for this helmet, Donovan. He gave some wonderful input and insight regarding the design for the bargrill visor. Personally, I liked the design for the mask because it is much sturdier than other simple bargrill visors I have worked on in the past. Honestly, I am considering using elements of this design in future visors

I'll join the chorus here. Lovely job!

My bascinet is similar to this piece, with a plate visor. I really wanted to do some etched brass trim for the visor but couldn't find a period example of a klapp with brass trim. All I could find was hundskull visors with brass. Help?

Thanks!

dak · Post by **dak** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:43 am

I should put my 2 cents in also, I guess. Since I'm the fellow he made it for.

I don't have the helmet in my hands... but from what I've seen in the many pictures that Erik has sent me over the course of the helmet's creation, I can't wait to get it in my hot little hands.

I do want to say that working with him has been an absolute delight. From the initial conversations, the several sketches going back and fourth, to the many e-mails keeping me abreast of his progress in making the helmet. I've been very happy with how the comission has progressed, and not only can I say that I'd not hesitate to order anything from him again, I'm going to ask him to make more stuff for me right away.

It arrives on Thursday, can't wait!

As for the comments on the bargrill design, I will say one thing. I have an absolute abhorrence to bargrills, but the fact is, I need one. I've never fought in a full-faced helm, and I can't afford to buy one and hope I can get used to it. The grill design that we came up with was a good compromise of form and function. I wanted a bargrill that did not completely detract from the look of the helm, and I don't think this one does.

dak.

Erik · Post by **Erik** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:51 pm

Thanks, Dak...for my part it has been a pleasure working with you too.