SALE!! SALE!!

Ned Chaney · Post by **Ned Chaney** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:11 pm

I'm selling a few things.

1) Visored Sugarloaf. Made by Pathfinder. Made out of mild steel 12 ga on top, 14 on the sides, this will fit a 23" noggin with a half inch of padding very nicely. There would even be room for a bit more padding if needed. I've only had this on to check the padding, it's never been in a fight, never been kissed by rataan and the padding was not glued in. I've not installed a strap yet so you can do that and put the strap where YOU want it. VERY nice work by pathfinder and a splendidly stunning helm. I'm asking $350.00 and it's worth every penny.
[img]http://webpages.charter.net/nolead/mysugar.jpg[/img]

2) A set of splinted legs made by Alail Horsefriend. 16 ga mild steel splints inside of blue leather. Very nice creased knees in the 14th C manner. These have seen a couple of fights, but very very light usage. Not much more than a couple of fights. I'm asking $100.00
[img]http://webpages.charter.net/nolead/legs2.jpg[/img]
[img]http://webpages.charter.net/nolead/legs3.jpg[/img]

3) A set of Andy Ward gaunts in mild steel. You know what they look like, and the quality. These will fit someone who wears a large glove size. They were made by Andy and sold by Calontir Trim. I'm asking $50.00 for them.

4) An Elna "Jean's Machine" heavy duty sewing machine. It's not a commercial machine but it will sew heavy material including up to about 4 oz leather. I'm asking $100.00 for it.

5) Deep dished, "soupcan" style elbow and knee cops from Windrose armoury made of mild steel. To see what they look like go here... http://www.windrosearmoury.com/in_stock.htm and look at his "13th C flared knees" and his "Elbows with flared edges". I'm asking $ 75.00 for the lot.

There may be more later, but that's it for now. Interested parties please contact me via email or PM.

Greylond · Post by **Greylond** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:32 pm

Got any pictures of those gaunts?

Steve S. · Post by **Steve S.** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:56 pm

Can someone provide a historical date of context for the visored sugarloaf? Thanks.

Steve

armourboy · Post by **armourboy** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:58 pm

Hi Steve

I am lucky enough to possess a copy of the book 'Arms and Uniforms - The Age of Chivalry - Part 1' by Liliane and Fred Funcken. It's a old book and very well illustrated.

In the section on the development of the Helm it illustrates about 33 different types of Great Helm, # 22 is a Sugerloaf topped helm with a visor - simply described as French, late 13th century.

The visor is of a much more simple design though, it has no eye-slits per se, instead the gap between the top edge of the visor and the bottom edge of the helm-brow creating the eye-sight. The visor is perforated with ten 'breath' holes which run across the top half of the visor.

hope this is of some help

JJ Shred · Post by **JJ Shred** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:05 pm

Are the elbows & knees mild steel?

Steve S. · Post by **Steve S.** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:17 pm

Thanks, Armorboy! Also, Sinric's pattern page on this site lists it as an "Early 14th century" style of helm. My guess is, then, that this style of helm is appropriate for late-13th to early 14th century.

It is sweet.

Steve

Ned Chaney · Post by **Ned Chaney** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:39 pm

Gaunts are spoken for.

Yes Bascot they are mild steel. Sorry I didn't put that in the post. I've corrected it.

De Heer van Liere · Post by **De Heer van Liere** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:54 pm

Steve -SoFC- wrote:Can someone provide a historical date of context for the visored sugarloaf? Thanks.

Steve

You also have this one in "Italian Medieval Armies, 1300-1500", Osprey Men-at-arms 136, plate A.

David Nicolle gives for sources:

"Effigies, 1300-25, Salerno & Lucera Cathedrals; frescoes, c. 1290-1300, San Gimignano; bas-relief, 1320-25, Bargello, Florence." :wink:

Ned Chaney · Post by **Ned Chaney** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:19 pm

The legs are gone now.

Ned Chaney · Post by **Ned Chaney** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:15 pm

I was mistaken about the brand on the sewing machine. It's a White Jeans Machine and you can see what it looks like and read more about it here...... http://www.whitesewing.com/4042.asp

Gypsy · Post by **Gypsy** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:14 am

What size are they ?

I might be interested

Gypsy

Ned Chaney · Post by **Ned Chaney** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:55 pm

What size are what Gypsy?

Ned Chaney · Post by **Ned Chaney** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 9:33 pm

Soupcans are gone. I'm listing the helm on the West Kingdom BB. If you don't want a Westie Weenie

to have this splendid helm somebody make me an offer.

taltosh · Post by **taltosh** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:12 pm

I'm of the opinion that Neddley is running some sort of money laudering scheme involving the purchase and reselling of armour...

Madyn · Post by **Madyn** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:35 am

Edward,

That helm is gorgeous. How tall is it? How wide are the eyeslots? How much does it weigh? Do you happen to have any other photos (shots from the side? straight on? etc.)

Thanks.

Ned Chaney · Post by **Ned Chaney** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:13 pm

It's 11 1/2" tall. The eyeslots are 1/2". It weighs 10lbs and I'll post some new pics in about half an hour.

Magnus The Black · Post by **Magnus The Black** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:03 pm

all you people with your tiny heads

Madyn · Post by **Madyn** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:05 pm

Is the 11 1/2" the height from the back skirt to crown, or from the front (which looks like it's a few inches longer)? How long from back to front and side to side? And when you get post more picks, do you happen to have any with you (or someone) wearing the helm?

Thanks again.

Ned Chaney · Post by **Ned Chaney** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:06 pm

Well it's been longer than a half hour but I got sidetracked. Here are three more pics as promised.

[img]http://webpages.charter.net/nolead/helm1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://webpages.charter.net/nolead/helm2.jpg[/img]
[img]http://webpages.charter.net/nolead/helm3.jpg[/img]

ALSO.......the gaunts are available again.

Dire38 · Post by **Dire38** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:55 am

are the legs still up for sale?

Ned Chaney · Post by **Ned Chaney** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:32 am

Dire.........the legs have been sold.

Ned Chaney · Post by **Ned Chaney** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:36 am

11 1/2" is from skirt to crown. It's 9 1/4" from back to front and 8" from side to side.

Ned Chaney · Post by **Ned Chaney** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:39 pm

The helm interest seems to be peterin' out so I may take this over to ebay soon.

Broadway · Post by **Broadway** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:56 pm

Remember, you said if you couldn't sell it to anybody, you'd trade it to me for some shrimp and grits...

Madyn · Post by **Madyn** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:13 pm

edward atte flynt wrote:The helm interest seems to be peterin' out so I may take this over to ebay soon.

I PMed you about the helm. I'm interested, but I also just bought another helm from WMA and want to see if it's a good fit. If it's not, I'll still be in the market. But I won't know for sure for another week or so, so if you need to sell the helm on ebay or trade it for grits first, I'll understand

Ned Chaney · Post by **Ned Chaney** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 5:23 pm

I'll hang out a bit longer. I hope your WMA helm fits cause he does some awesome work, but on the other hand........I hope it doesn't!!

BTW......the Andy Ward Gaunts are once again available.

sarnac · Post by **sarnac** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:02 pm

PM sent about the gaunts

TristanVonRottweil · Post by **TristanVonRottweil** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:44 pm

I dont know what Andy wards Gaunts look like.

Could you post a Few picture of these.

Ned Chaney · Post by **Ned Chaney** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:25 pm

I have a couple pics on my HD at home I can upload, but I'm going out of town this afternoon and will be back Sunday. I can upload them and post them then.

olaf haraldson · Post by **olaf haraldson** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 7:10 pm

What are the measurements on the andy ward gaunts? I just got a set from Calontir Trim, and they were effin huge...
But I really want them if they'll fit me...

Ned Chaney · Post by **Ned Chaney** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:43 pm

The gaunts look like this... [img]http://webpages.charter.net/nolead/gaunts.jpg[/img]
I have one person interested but no comittment Olaf. I'll keep you posted.
Ned

Leviathan · Post by **Leviathan** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:26 am

I'm interested in the gaunts if there are no other takers. Also, is that helm Mild or Stainless Steel? Thanks.

Leviathan

Ned Chaney · Post by **Ned Chaney** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:46 am

The helm is mild steel. I don't usually buy stainless. I live in Nevada and it's VERY dry so no real need for stainless.

Ned Chaney · Post by **Ned Chaney** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:40 pm

Gaunts and Sewing Machine are sold. I still have the helm.

Ned Chaney · Post by **Ned Chaney** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:24 pm

I still have the helm and it's still offered for sale.

SALE!! SALE!!

SALE!! SALE!!

Visored Sugerloaf helm

knees Elbows