Sallet or Not Sallet, read on

Sixtus_Goetz · Post by **Sixtus_Goetz** » Sat May 07, 2005 1:03 am

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 59247&rd=1

Samuel · Post by **Samuel** » Sat May 07, 2005 1:44 am

generally I try and not be critical of other peoples work but..

wheres the rest of it?

Thomas H · Post by **Thomas H** » Sat May 07, 2005 5:04 am

'the rest of it' was cut away back in the 15th century when this type of helmet came about. Often called a celeta it had a lame at the back and one short one over the brow. like this http://www.glasgowmuseums.com/assets/sl ... .65.ak.jpg
though the indian design looks a little mis-shapen.

Patton Lives · Post by **Patton Lives** » Sat May 07, 2005 5:39 am

The original foot soldier peasant head cap,

Perfect to be worn under a chain mail coif.

Huh, under a mail coif?

Alcyoneus · Post by **Alcyoneus** » Sat May 07, 2005 6:49 am

A really BIG one.

Sallet? Close enough.

Hew · Post by **Hew** » Sat May 07, 2005 6:47 pm

I wonder what the rivets are supposed to do, besides making it harder to polish?

iaenmor · Post by **iaenmor** » Sat May 07, 2005 7:44 pm

One would guess that they are to hang some sort of suspension from. Looks like they are to high up to do that. Yes they would get in the way of a good polishing but I do not think it will help the looks.

T. Finkas · Post by **T. Finkas** » Sat May 07, 2005 9:56 pm

Yeah, this is a Windlass mass-produced piece I think. I have never liked it...it looks...wrong. Wrong shape...too shallow. Typical Indian result...decent craftsmanship and the right details, but the shape has been distorted or interpreted poorly, and the details are placed wrong. These craftsman show that they are able, but why is their "eye" often so off-target?

Tim

Alcyoneus · Post by **Alcyoneus** » Sat May 07, 2005 10:05 pm

Like some of our newer armorers, they haven't looked at enough real pieces, or pictures of them to understand and comprehend what it is supposed to be. I doubt that they are making it because they 'love' armor, or even necessarily have an eye to noting the slight differences. They are probably give a picture or two, and told to make a bunch of them, quickly.

Ceramite · Post by **Ceramite** » Sat May 07, 2005 10:59 pm

Alcyoneus wrote:Like some of our newer armorers, they haven't looked at enough real pieces, or pictures of them to understand and comprehend what it is supposed to be.

I am new and i do agree. As i start to build i realize more and more how off i am. So then i go back to my reference pics and "ahhh mines sweeping the complete wrong direction! opps" Defiantly not as easy as you masters make it look!!

youknow · Post by **youknow** » Fri May 13, 2005 10:50 am

http://www.arngrim.dk/default.asp?prod=11 this is tehhh same

Jason Grimes · Post by **Jason Grimes** » Fri May 13, 2005 1:50 pm

Timothy_D_Finkas wrote:Yeah, this is a Windlass mass-produced piece I think. I have never liked it...it looks...wrong. Wrong shape...too shallow. Typical Indian result...decent craftsmanship and the right details, but the shape has been distorted or interpreted poorly, and the details are placed wrong. These craftsman show that they are able, but why is their "eye" often so off-target?

Tim

It looks to me that they were working off of a description and not a picture of an origional.