Blakenshield Armour

[chef de chambre]

Hi All,

I agree with you Ace, regarding training bareback. That said, if your balance isn't good enough to do that, then you really have no business jousting because you really aren't rider enough for the task. You may have some initial successes, but you are an accident (a bad one) waiting to happen.

The cattle chute method proposed by Mr. Cross is a means of allowing an incompletely trained rider and horse to manage to joust. I would think it minimizes the skills required. There is little skill involved in going down a cattle chute, it isn't a historic practise, and it is probably dangerous to the riders legs and the horse, if the horse should lose it's balance.

Please note I am not a jousting expert - I have only begun training in this aspect of equestrian activity, and there are far more skilled jousters than I can probably hope to be on this list. I have been doing a lot of reading of historic manuals on the subject, and I have had very expert advice.

Anybody who has been around horses for any length of time with half a brain realizes that they will always have a lot to learn - Ace is quite correct regarding this. Every horse is an individual, some training methods that will work with one may not necessarily work with another, all horses are not suited to every task placed before them, and arrogance of the equestrian only leads to broken limbs, necks and damaged horses.

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Bob R.

[jcesarelli]

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The counter-tilt is a historic practice, though it did not come into common use until the beginning of the 1400's, and was probably introduced by the Spanish or Portugese. It is specificall discussed by Duarte in his 'The Art of Good Horsemanship' form approximately 1434.

I agree with on the essential nature of the halt in a straight line, from both my studies and from practical experience, as I have jousted for almost 10 years.

Joseph

[Morgan]

PADDLES!!!! ZOT!!!

In case anyone was curious, he seems to have moved his URL

http://www.livesteelarmor.com/

[Sean Powell]

WHY!!! Why would you resurect this thread? Couldn't you just create a new one? Should anything this old and contoversial be raised from the dead?

Sean

[Konstantin the Red]

Oh well, at least it's not the "Ratpack Me" thread he started in a fit of masochism or something.
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Evil Denizen T Shirt Ser. No. 319

Yes, the lowest ED shirt number I've seen was Pi.

[Caius705]

Oh well, at least it's not the "Ratpack Me" thread he started in a fit of masochism or something.
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Evil Denizen T Shirt Ser. No. 319

Yes, the lowest ED shirt number I've seen was Pi.

Found here, for you new guys viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8308&hilit=RAT+PACK

[Konstantin the Red]

Or this one (Locked): viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8328 Along about page 3 after some none-too-edifying posts from Matthew Cross, the Evil Denizen T-shirt idea was born.

[Zetheros]

Hahaha... Evil denizens of this dark place...

It's easy to tell when someone's been playing too much fantasy games.

...Don't look at me.

[Konstantin the Red]

We can't.

It's dark.

[Zetheros]

We can't.

It's dark.

xD

[Cap'n Atli]

Well, nothing has changed on his site, at least when it comes to swords: "Place the spring on a railroad tie or stump with its convex side up and hit the spring until it does what you want it to do. Use as big a sledge hammer as you can use and hit squarely flat with the face of it. The closer you work to the edge of the of the stump the easier it goes. Hitting closer to the edge of the spring causes warping so be sure to hit the center of the spring. This process can take days so be patience."

When someone critiqued this on Anvilfire, he snapped back with a vengeance. He didn't gain much traction there.

My problem is more with his attitude and his refusal to learn, or even consider others' techniques or research than with his work. Despite his oddities, he was relatively competent, and despite his sometimes awkward techniques, he did produce some nice work and useable armor; certainly several steps up from blue plastic pickle barrel.

[Konstantin the Red]

Though curiously, absolutely no one in the SCA seems ever to have fielded any of his armor, not even a piece. And you'd think *someone* would have been imprudent enough to do it.