Would this gorget work with lamellar

Urban · Post by **Urban** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 12:39 pm

I've been trying to come up with an idea for a gorget that would look passable with lamellar armor. I was poking around in my pictures from Estrella last year, and saw this picture of my Uncle Haroun, his kit is an arabic influenced style. Would this gorget work with a lamellar kit?
~Folcric

Alcyoneus · Post by **Alcyoneus** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 1:50 pm

I'd say yes.

Ahriman · Post by **Ahriman** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:09 am

Why don't you use this?

Even as it's chinese, I think that it wouldn't look out of place for a NE kit.

T. Finkas · Post by **T. Finkas** » Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:22 am

Ahriman wrote:Why don't you use this?http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=6194&stc=1...

Wow, what a great harness. I can see what looks to me like Scythian/Sarmatian influence there. What's the date on it?

And I like that other one that was posted. It looks rather "Bronze Age" to me, like the gorget from the (Hellatic Era)Dendra Panopy. I don't know how it works with that fellow's kit from an historical angle, but it's mighty handsome.

Maelgwyn · Post by **Maelgwyn** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:16 pm

Please post a source for that image! The collar looks just like the guys on this bone plate:
http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB2/ ... php?id=369

Which I found here: http://www.transoxiana.com.ar/Eran/Articles/mode.html

Urban · Post by **Urban** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:32 pm

That is a sweet kit, got any more pictures of it? I'll have to see if I can adapt something along those lines. Thanks for the pic.
~Folcric

Clinker · Post by **Clinker** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:53 am

How about a late Roman lamellar gorget?

http://www.durolitum.co.uk/images/gallery/lamella.jpg

Ahriman · Post by **Ahriman** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:17 am

Sorry, I only know that it's chinese... a guy posted it at the forum at vikingsword.com. I've kept it only as it was interesting even to my NE maniac eyes...

Maelgwyn: nice pic!
Clinker: I thought that romans used only locking scale, not lamellar... am I wrong? :?:

BTW, AFAIK Folcric wants to portray something Near Eastern...
Hm, Flolcric, what do you want to portray, exactly?

Maelgwyn · Post by **Maelgwyn** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:59 am

Ahriman wrote:...I thought that romans used only locking scale, not lamellar... am I wrong?

Yes you are! :lol:

This idea has come up several times. It has been published by reputable authors. And it has been disproven by additional evidence.

See this topic for examples of Roman lamellar: http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=54537

Blackoak · Post by **Blackoak** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:06 pm

Having worn lamella armour, the only thing you need to worry about is the gorget snagging. The pic you posted should be ok, but one made of lamellar tends to get caught up as you turn your head. I move and twist alot when fighting, so snag factor was important to me. Just something to think about, good luck.

Uric

Ahriman · Post by **Ahriman** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:11 pm

Ok, you convinced me...

Urban · Post by **Urban** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:33 pm

Not really sure on an exact time or place yet. I was considering byzantine, or maybe persian, I'm not really sure.
~Folcric

BjÃ¸rn · Post by **BjÃ¸rn** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:17 pm

Blackoak wrote:Having worn lamella armour, the only thing you need to worry about is the gorget snagging. The pic you posted should be ok, but one made of lamellar tends to get caught up as you turn your head. I move and twist alot when fighting, so snag factor was important to me. Just something to think about, good luck.

Uric

Just an idea, but wouldn't the lamellar gorget backed with leather keep the lamella from snagging on the rest of the armour. I don't know if it is period or not, but it would match the rest of the armour and allow freedom of movement.

Bjorn

BjÃ¸rn · Post by **BjÃ¸rn** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:27 pm

Blackoak wrote:Having worn lamella armour, the only thing you need to worry about is the gorget snagging. The pic you posted should be ok, but one made of lamellar tends to get caught up as you turn your head. I move and twist alot when fighting, so snag factor was important to me. Just something to think about, good luck.

Uric

Just an idea, but wouldn't the lamellar gorget backed with leather keep the lamella from snagging on the rest of the armour. I don't know if it is period or not, but it would match the rest of the armour and allow freedom of movement.

Bjorn

Li Shimin · Post by **Li Shimin** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:15 pm

Ahriman wrote:Why don't you use this?
Even as it's chinese, I think that it wouldn't look out of place for a NE kit.

This armour is north Chinese or Korean, 4th-7th centuries most likely, as this design was replaced by the long lamellar coat. A figurine of a horsemen, unearthed in central China, depicts a soldier clad in identical armour and riding a fully armoured horse.