Lance rests and buckles for sale

Patrick Thaden · Post by **Patrick Thaden** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:32 am

I've now added an Italian styled lance rest that you can install yourself or have your local armourer install.
[img]http://www.thadenarmory.com/sell/misc/full/IMG_0207.jpg[/img]
I'll get a better pic of them here without the MD can

Go here for purchasing details at the bottom of the page
http://thadenarmory.com/sell/misc/miscellaneous.htm
I've also reduced the price on this buckle and changed it a slight bit, little better design I think. I now have this same buckle available to accomodate a 5/8" strap.
[img]http://thadenarmory.com/sell/buckles/ta_buckle07.jpg[/img]
I'll also be adding this same design in bronze here shortly I should have a price on these either later this week or early next week.
Go here for purchasing information, again, bottom of the page
http://thadenarmory.com/sell/buckles/buckles.htm

Thanks, let me know if you have any questions

Klaus the Red · Post by **Klaus the Red** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:54 pm

Patrick, what's the earliest that this style of lance rest appears, to your knowledge? The 14th century breast plate in the Met (the one with the v-shaped stop rib) has the same 4-staple mounting system remaining, but the only complete lance rests I've seen are 15th century or later.

Really nice work- I'd get one for my new fabric-covered cuirass if only it didn't double the price of the project.

Klaus

T. Finkas · Post by **T. Finkas** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:35 pm

It might be cool to also offer just the bracket (& pin) but no rest. I have no use for a rest but it might be cool to have the bracket (sans rest) on my new fabric-covered BP.

Klaus the Red · Post by **Klaus the Red** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:39 pm

I'll be adding a mount to my BP as well just to be complete, though I never expect to joust in it. I believe it's not so much a bracket, actually, as a row of four independent staples like vervelles peened over on the inside- what appears to be a bracket in the photo above is the template for lining up the holes.

T. Finkas · Post by **T. Finkas** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:48 pm

Doh! Thanks, Klaus.

Klaus the Red · Post by **Klaus the Red** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:08 pm

Yeah, fooled me too for a moment- it looks kind of like a lock plate for a bank vault or something, doesn't it?

Patrick Thaden · Post by **Patrick Thaden** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:28 am

Klaus, the earliest I know of a lance rest using these staples where the rest survives is on the ch S-18 in Churburg, I actually based this next example of lance rest off of it, They have it dated to something like 1370-1410 on this composite suit, I don't recall what they actually said the breastplate was dated to though.
[img]http://www.thadenarmory.com/sell/misc/full/ta-lancrest02.jpg[/img]
you can now buy this style of lance rest as well from my site.
http://www.thadenarmory.com/sell/misc/miscellaneous.htm
Thanks for looking (and hopefully buying)

Patrick

CLANG · Post by **CLANG** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:51 am

There's a pic in Boccia's Lombardy book of the inside of a 15th C Italian BP that shows very clearly an oval reinforcing plate that the lance rest staples are mounted through. It could be a repair or a later reinforce-as I recall, the patina looked different than the rest of the BP. I think I've seen at least one other similar reinforcing plate also. Considering the stress to which a lance rest could be subjected, I'm amazed that more of them aren't broken away. Some of the later 15th and 16th C lance rests on jousting-only armors are ludicrously heavy.

CLANG · Post by **CLANG** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:56 am

BTW-I made a similar lance rest a while back-it was based on one of the Mantova armors, I believe.

http://clang.adkinssoftware.com/body%20 ... %2001.html

Gaston de Clermont · Post by **Gaston de Clermont** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:13 pm

Nice work guys! Are you welding these? Forge welding?
I've been puttering around with the lance rest on the Churburg #13, which appears to fold up rather than detach. Getting the bracket that holds the prong to look and function like the original is a bigger challenge than I expected. So your results on this design are that much more impressive.