FS, Armoury of the castle of Churburg Trapp and Mann

Thomas H · Post by **Thomas H** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:30 pm

not mine though i'd love it but just spent waay more than i can really afford on books from ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/The-Armoury-of-th ... dZViewItem

clalibus · Post by **clalibus** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:20 am

what is, about, the conversion rate to the english pound right now?

clalibus · Post by **clalibus** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:24 am

1.7566 to 1 that's getting out of my price range. anyone need some custom tailoring embroidery or patches real quick?

brucer · Post by **brucer** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:38 am

Damn. I saw this posting, and I thought "Wow, they're selling off the Churburg castle armor?! :shock:

How do I get a piece of that!"

Sadly, it's just a book :wink:

Just as well, I don't know how I would have justified that expense to she who must be obeyed :lol:

Brucer

Klaus the Red · Post by **Klaus the Red** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:09 pm

What's the average price in $USD that this set is going for nowadays?

clalibus · Post by **clalibus** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:29 am

Klaus the Red wrote:What's the average price in $USD that this set is going for nowadays?

if i told you you might outbid me :wink:

seriously if someone does get a hold fo it i will gladly spring for archival prints made of the book

of the four hundred copies made, i have found seven on the market averaging at a whopping $1750.00 american

Klaus the Red · Post by **Klaus the Red** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:49 am

Yeah, right... not in the face of an impending move. My wife doesn't indulge me that much. Anyway, I shudder to think what his reserve must be.

Jeff J · Post by **Jeff J** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:45 am

(Twitch)... Second... baby... due... in... a... few... months... (twitch)...

Hey! This'd make a FANTASTIC baby gift, ya know! The AA could take up a collection and...

(whap! Char delivers Psychic head-smack)

Strongbow · Post by **Strongbow** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:58 am

How cool would it be if Chivalry Bookshelf got rights to reprint this book ala the Wisby book (HINT! hint!)

Sebastian K · Post by **Sebastian K** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:09 am

Strongbow,

you can buy the reprint at http://www.churburg.com/willkommen_engl/shop/index.html for 620 Euro new. So I do not think a reprint by an American company will be coming anytime soon.

YiS

Sebastian

Gregoire de Lyon · Post by **Gregoire de Lyon** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:19 am

It appears that there might be a few originals for sale here, and certainly some of the reprints.

Abe Books

All well out of my price range for a book I've never seen...

Strongbow · Post by **Strongbow** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:21 am

Sebastian Kempkens wrote:Strongbow,

you can buy the reprint at http://www.churburg.com/willkommen_engl/shop/index.html for 620 Euro new. So I do not think a reprint by an American company will be coming anytime soon.

YiS

Sebastian

ARGH!

That just ridiculous. $100 would be reasonable for a book like that (like the Wisby book), but THAT is out of my league.

Brian W. Rainey · Post by **Brian W. Rainey** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:05 pm

Strongbow wrote:ARGH!

That just ridiculous. $100 would be reasonable for a book like that (like the Wisby book), but THAT is out of my league.

The "reprint" is not simply a reprint of the original volume. It includes an additional book in updated print technology, color prints... etc. It is also very nicely bound and presented.

The price for the reprint is reasonable, IMHO... once you put your hands on it and see it, that is. I was shocked as well, at the initial price. Now I consider it some of the best money I have ever spent... along with the Bramante Editrice published books. The Churburg catalogue is a definite need if your interests are in Italian armour.

WaaaghBoss · Post by **WaaaghBoss** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:19 pm

I still have my original copy.

Would consider trades for armour- 15th C. legs and helm (sallet) are what I need to finish my kit.

:-)

Hand numbered original 1929 print- Doug Strong and Brian Rainey have both seen it- it exists...

~Kevin

Brian W. Rainey · Post by **Brian W. Rainey** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:59 pm

WaaaghBoss wrote:I still have my original copy.

Would consider trades for armour- 15th C. legs and helm (sallet) are what I need to finish my kit.

Hand numbered original 1929 print- Doug Strong and Brian Rainey have both seen it- it exists...

~Kevin

KEVIN! How have you been? Keeping busy? How is the family?

My original offer of 3 times what you paid for it still stands. Or the following in trade (pick one):

- You can take my Harley for a ride.

- You can take my SRT-4 for a spin (135MPH in 4th gear! Not sure about the last ~500 RPMs of fourth and then 5th... I chickened out.) Still got the 'Vette?

- I would happily father your next child.

Your call... let me know. BTW, will you be able to make it out for the workshop in Schaumburg on April 29th?

WaaaghBoss · Post by **WaaaghBoss** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:19 pm

Brian,

Life is good- Still have the 'vette. SRT-4 eh? I have almost gotten one of those a couple times- think I'll wait for the 300 hp Caliber SRT-4 in the fall...

The wife and baby boy are doing great- Wyatt just turned 1 last week!!!

I'll try to make it out for the workshop- pretty much all my free time (not much) is spent riding.

~K

Klaus the Red · Post by **Klaus the Red** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:57 pm

I still have my original copy.

Would consider trades for armour- 15th C. legs and helm (sallet) are what I need to finish my kit.

I don't suppose I could interest you in a hand-sewn arming coat?

Klaus

WaaaghBoss · Post by **WaaaghBoss** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:36 pm

Klaus-

As much as that tempts me, I really NEED to finish my 15th C. kit for some joust gigs this summer so I can retire my sugarloaf and return my borrowed legs...

;-)

~Kevin

Klaus the Red · Post by **Klaus the Red** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:12 pm

Hmmm. I've been doing successful garb-for-armor deals lately so I've half a mind to try to arrange some sort of three-way swap, but that may prove to be too complicated. Just for the hell of it, though, what style of legs and sallet are you interested in? Do you have specific historic examples you're trying to copy, and/or are you trying to match your existing kit?

WaaaghBoss · Post by **WaaaghBoss** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:53 pm

Basically I want a 1470's or so sallet w/ bevor- prefer the German style.
I like something like this, but not terribly picky:

Legs just about anything german style would do, or a set of matching arms and legs...
I have a pair of arms that I really like so the legs (3/4) and sallet w/ bevor are really needed.

~K

Klaus the Red · Post by **Klaus the Red** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:12 am

PM me, I just had dinner with an armorer friend who has expressed interest in taking on your commission in exchange for the Churburg volume... I don't stand to get anything out of the deal except the satisfaction of finding a good home for the merchandise.

RalphS · Post by **RalphS** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:51 am

Hmm....

Kevin, are you in any form of rush to make a deal? I really like to make sallets, and have been keeping an eye out for the book. If there's no rush I can make you a nice sallet.

Care to discuss details? We're talking a raised helmet here, no welds.

And if you're over on this side of the pond any time, you can take a spin on a real bike, a goldwing GL1500. Not speed, RPMs, noise, attitude; just plain pleasure :twisted:

I think I'll leave fathering of next children to Brian, though...

Brian W. Rainey · Post by **Brian W. Rainey** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:45 pm

RalphS wrote:And if you're over on this side of the pond any time, you can take a spin on a real bike, a goldwing GL1500. Not speed, RPMs, noise, attitude; just plain pleasure

Now, Ralph.....

It ain't riding if your teeth don't vibrate and your butt does not go numb! I am a fan of brutal machines:

'00 Camaro SS
'98 Harley Fatboy (pre-Brian modifications)

I had to sell my Honda VTX1800C because it was too civilized.

*Note - I do have a GL1800 on my list of toys for when I get old, though.

Kevin's book is an old library copy (University of Chicago?), I believe. It has some wear and tear on the outside (if I remember correctly)... but from what I remember the inside (where it counts) was in excellent condition. Other than normal age discoloration on the interior pages... it was a great book. If I knew where he lived I would sneak in at night and relieve him of ownership burden. A good book and what he is wanting for it is a great trade, IMHO.

Thomas H · Post by **Thomas H** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:58 pm

Want to swap armour for C H Ashdowns Armour and weapons in the middle ages, anyone

(it's a first edition and previously owned by a Mr Pat Murray)

Klaus the Red · Post by **Klaus the Red** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:03 pm

Yeah, but there are more greivous armor errors in Ashdown than there were in The 13th Warrior...

Thomas H · Post by **Thomas H** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:07 pm

I was just flicking through it starting laughing at some of the etchings, especilly the pig faced bascinet on page 98l

RalphS · Post by **RalphS** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:46 pm

While we're off-topic anyway...

Brian W. Rainey wrote:*Note - I do have a GL1800 on my list of toys for when I get old, though.

Why postpone the inevitable? Might as well get it over with right away. Here's a pic from the most wonderful tour I've had on a rental GL1800, 3 days, 2000 miles, through the Rockies and Utah.

Now do that on a butt-shaker bike!

Brian W. Rainey · Post by **Brian W. Rainey** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:57 pm

RalphS wrote:While we're off-topic anyway...

Why postpone the inevitable? Might as well get it over with right away. Here's a pic from the most wonderful tour I've had on a rental GL1800, 3 days, 2000 miles, through the Rockies and Utah.

Now do that on a butt-shaker bike!

Gorgeous picture! Major jealous... I live in this country and have not been out there yet!

I took a my then-new '96 883 H-D Sportster from Catania, Sicily..... all the way up to Torino-area and back! That was when I was young and stupid, though! Riding a bike onto a boat so I could cross the straights of Messina was a bit wierd.

Then there was the time my Sicilian buddy talked me into riding his uber-turbo charged (small twin turbos, IIRC) 117 cubic inch '93 H-D Heritage Softail (converted to solid "shock replacements") for a two day trip around Sicily, up Mt. Etna, etc. That could have been more comfortable, no doubt. Fun.... but I needed a full body realignment afterwards! Teach me to do a quick cam replacement the night before a group ride in a country where replacements parts, gaskets, etc are sometimes difficult to find on short order.

Right now, I only get the chance to travel a few miles at a time. Maybe a couple hundred miles round trip. Once my girls are older and I get some more free time.... Goldwing here I come!

Still won't sell the Fatboy, though!

She has sat since the fall of '04. The delivery guy just dropped off my jet kit and Vance and Hines exhaust. I will be on cloud 9 tomorrow while I am rebuilding the carb and swapping the pipes out. Finally some manual labor, the smell of oil and petrol.... I will have a great big grin on my face all weekend, even if I don't get to ride her more than just a couple of tune-up runs.

Brian W. Rainey · Post by **Brian W. Rainey** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:49 pm

Ralph... I am mad at you. You got me thinking about touring bikes...

While I could not knuckle down and go all "old man" with a Goldwing or an ElectraGlide... I did go halfway in between:

http://www.harley-davidson.com/pr/mot/2 ... LHX_us.pdf

I went and bought that today.

RalphS · Post by **RalphS** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:56 pm

LOL!!!

I've never been particularly susceptible to "trends", and bought a goldwing GL1100 as my first bike, the GL1500 as a replacement for that. If I would act my age, I'd buy a Hayabusa or so, but that's just not my kind of bike.

I like your choice! Enjoy it and ignore what anyone else tells you about it, they're probably just jealous

(as one old fart to another...)

Oh well, sorry for the off-topic post, people :roll: