New Stonekeep Helm #8- Erik the Awful

Stonekeep · Post by **Stonekeep** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:57 pm

New Stonekeep Helm #8- Erik the Awful

Hal sent me this pattern.

Riveted and welded.

14 gauge topper, 14 gauge everything, even nose.

1/4 inch and 3/8 inch barstock.

This one was fun!!
I need to consult with Hal before pricing it.

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Morgan · Post by **Morgan** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 3:24 pm

That's pretty darn nice.

Stonekeep · Post by **Stonekeep** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:31 pm

Thanks man!
Takes a little while to put together, but I like it the best so far.
I just finished another one of Hal's helms a few minutes ago. the crusader saltshaker pothelm whatever it is. Ive got someone polishing it right now, should be done in a couple hours and Ill get it posted too..

Mad Matt · Post by **Mad Matt** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:33 pm

Don't know if it's got any historical basis but this one is definitly a cool looking helm.

Stonekeep · Post by **Stonekeep** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:35 pm

I think this one just came out of Hal's brain.. hahahaa

Stonekeep · Post by **Stonekeep** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:36 pm

Here's the prettier one Hal himself made:

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wilmot · Post by **wilmot** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:39 pm

Mike,
A couple of things;
1) The bars don't look like they were welded all the way around.
2) The top bar looks like it would be right at the center of where your eye would be, this would make seeing out of it hard.

That's how it looks from the photos, I may be wrong.

Ronald

Stonekeep · Post by **Stonekeep** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:49 pm

I did a heavy deep penetration weld from the back of the small bars.
It actually went all the way around but it is difficult to tell because the main bar is 3/8. I went two settings higher than 3/8 when putting the 3/8 and 1/4 bars together, so i really melted them together well. I was afraid of the helm being dropped a lot in that area so i wanted to overdo it a little. thats why i went with the 3/8 bar coming down. I wanted a lot of strength in that area.

Stonekeep · Post by **Stonekeep** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:54 pm

Oh on the eye thing, im not sure, will have to check next time im in the shipping bldg... The pattern called for about an inch and 3/4 eye slot, with a bar in the middle. The only changes I made was giving him a "broken nose" so you could see up and down a little better and you could pad it closer to the eye slot (if desired) without fear of your nose touching. Just gave a little more room for the nose....

Stonekeep · Post by **Stonekeep** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 5:04 pm

Oh and Ive got a 3/8 inch bar "bridge" under the 14 gauge nose which is solidly welded to the top of the long 3/8 bar. this way if the bridge of the nose took a direct hit on only the bridge of the nose with a large weapon like a glave (would have to be a side angle hit), it will absorb into a 14 gauge piece with 3/8 bar backing and that 3/8 bar is welded to the outside of the helm, so i do not expect it to deform whatsoever... and the 14 gauge is creased on top of that, so i think that area is super strong and Im not worried about it now. I was originally.

Morgan · Post by **Morgan** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:43 pm

From a strict SCA standpoint, the top looks a little high. It's not undesirable for everyone, but I'd think a lot of fighters who'd really like this helm would REALLY like it if it were a little shorter. Just an opinion.

Stonekeep · Post by **Stonekeep** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:00 pm

Morgan wrote:From a strict SCA standpoint, the top looks a little high. It's not undesirable for everyone, but I'd think a lot of fighters who'd really like this helm would REALLY like it if it were a little shorter. Just an opinion.

That wouldn't be a problem.. Its actually a pain to make it this high...