wisby gauntlet "kit"

whonew · Post by **whonew** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:10 pm

wisby style glove pieces made of mild 18 GA Is there any interest and what could this cost?

Oswyn_de_Wulferton · Post by **Oswyn_de_Wulferton** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:17 pm

How much work would be involved in putting these together? Are they pre-riveted sections (the main body, each finger, etc)? Are you asking what people would pay? I would be interested, not sure exactly how 18ga will hold up to SCA combat.

Jean Paul de Sens · Post by **Jean Paul de Sens** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:31 pm

Interested.

audax · Post by **audax** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:29 pm

Me too.

whonew · Post by **whonew** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:56 pm

this "kit" would need to be sewn to a glove and riveted together with 4 or so rivets only. Assembly should not need any metal work. Should the kit include cuff plates? How much would people pay for such a package? [ballpark]

Oswyn_de_Wulferton · Post by **Oswyn_de_Wulferton** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:00 pm

I would suggest the cuff plates, so as to make the entire thing SCA legal. Even if it is not riveted together. No idea what something like this is worth. I would be happy to be a guinea pig, and post reviews and stuff (hint hint

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Wolf · Post by **Wolf** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:07 pm

hmmmmmmmmmm

Murdock · Post by **Murdock** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:37 pm

imo mild 18 ga is to thin and to soft to ue alone for SCA combat safely

Kel Rekuta · Post by **Kel Rekuta** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:03 pm

Murdock wrote:imo mild 18 ga is to thin and to soft to ue alone for SCA combat safely

Gotta agree. I have 18ga stainless plate gauntlets. Those got a frightful whack in melees when I still played SCA. No Wisby's are appropriate to a club rich environment like SCA melees. They were never intended for such an environment or purpose. They were merely designed to keep your fingers from being separated from your hands by sharp steel weapons. Your bruised and crushed hands could always heal after you survived a pitched battle.

Different gig, different kit, IMHO.

Wulfgar · Post by **Wulfgar** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:24 pm

Love the idea, think its a great product but to me and what i would be wanting to use them for they would only be worth around $80 US a pair which is probably well under your manufacturing costs.

I love the wisby gauntlets and would love a pair but they would be next to useless for sca combat in that guage steel but i would love a pair for display purposes.

Murdock · Post by **Murdock** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 12:10 am

I was saying that the metal was to thin nothing wrong witha wisby design, half the barony seems to have em.

Go with 16 ga stainless or 18 ga spring.

LeeC · Post by **LeeC** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:32 am

Interested here.

Primvs Pavlvs · Post by **Primvs Pavlvs** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:32 am

Why do they have to be for SCA only?

Murdock · Post by **Murdock** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:13 am

they don't

but thats the single largest market so it'd be a good idea to have em be marketable

Russ Mitchell · Post by **Russ Mitchell** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:21 pm

Interested in theory for fencing purposes, though the wrist cuff plates would be very helpful.

LeeC · Post by **LeeC** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:18 pm

If they were affordable enough they could really open the door for many a hopeful WMA practioner.
That said, I could not make a guesstimate on what such a kit should cost not having done the work.

MJBlazek · Post by **MJBlazek** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:46 pm

With cuff plates, Id say that I would play $100, 110 for 18ga. Id go as high as $150 if you could get it in a different leather color.

As for the needing to be SCA legal.

Hes right, it is the largest market, and should be made to work for that market.

I am sort of sitting on the fence with SCA fighting, getting backinto the choreographed stage steel fighting, and even we tend to get most of our armour SCA grade, even though we dont have the same safety requirments, its good to know that the stuff will protect you if an accident should even happen.

mike mercier · Post by **mike mercier** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:13 pm

Me and my students might be interested. 18ga is fine. They are suitable for our steel combat. Perhaps you might be able to offer them in different gauges for those with different fight backgrounds.

Mike

Athavulf_the_Goth · Post by **Athavulf_the_Goth** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:43 pm

So did you ever come up with a price. Keep in mind that the right price is the price the market is willing to pay. This may seem like a cop out but the truth is that you won't know what you can get for them until you allow people to bid on them, either here or on ebay. If the return is to low for what it cost you to produce them then you scrap it and go to something that will make you some cash.

Now, there are two strategies for reducing your cost that a product becomes viable as cash making endeavor.

You can streamline the production process to cut down on production time which means you cut down on your cost, the cost of your time/labor.

You can also work it from the materials side and try to find a good supplier that can provide you with consistent quality material at a good wholesale price. That takes what is called economies of scale which basically means that you have to be willing to buy in bulk to get a deeper discount.

The best thing is when you can accomplish both.

Just some food for thought.

Can you guess what my education is in?

wisby gauntlet "kit"

wisby gauntlet "kit"

how much work?

Pricing?