Elizabethan era patterns?

Aazel · Post by **Aazel** » Mon Dec 09, 2002 10:57 am

Hi everyone, i've been lurking around these boards for a while now, and I've been trying to get tools and materials together to make a small shop....and finally my dream is becomming a realization.

I have a small problem though, I'm an SCA fencer, and almost all my work in costuming is elizabethan, as opposed to midevil. So i've been looking for a good pattern source for elizabethan era armor. Landsknecht 3/4 harness and such would be ideal. I've been looking everywhere on the 'net and this site (bravo on the large ammount of patterns btw) is the only one i've found with any really good info.

Any help yall could give, or a point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.

Aaz

Konstantin the Red · Post by **Konstantin the Red** » Mon Dec 09, 2002 7:12 pm

Here's the hard way: build yourself scale models of 16th-c. armours out of tagboard/manila folders. Snip, tuck, and fiddle until the curves and lines are right. Disassemble, open up and scale up at Kinko's. Fitting a tagboard armour to a G.I. Joe would make a 1/6 scale model. I should think this would be a lot like patternmaking.

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Eric · Post by **Eric** » Mon Dec 09, 2002 9:51 pm

Well, Brigadines and Jack of Plates could still be found among the Trayned Bandes.
http://www.armourarchive.org/patterns/brig/
The 16th Century patern would work great for both.

Of course not let us forget about the Peascod wich was very popular too.
http://www.armourarchive.org/patterns/peascod_wm.hurt/

Also maille could still be found.

Alcyoneus · Post by **Alcyoneus** » Mon Dec 09, 2002 11:00 pm

I don't think that you will find many "patterns" available for that type of suit. It would tend to be more fitted and specialized than the simpler armour of the 14th C.

Aazel · Post by **Aazel** » Mon Dec 09, 2002 11:37 pm

I've got a number of books on that particuar type of harness. I've got all the books from the Landeszeughaus in Graz, they give quite a few diffrent views of the various styles. I've also got a few VERY detailed books on armor that I picked up in the various museums in Vienna.

I figured i'd have to work up some custom patterns...I just tend to work with numbers and formulas for making things fit. ;-)

I was just hoping to avoid it...hehe.

Thanks much for the replies so far!

john · Post by **john** » Tue Dec 10, 2002 10:35 am

Feel free to list your books.

please.

Aazel · Post by **Aazel** » Tue Dec 10, 2002 12:33 pm

"Harnisch und Helm" (also have swords and guns books, makes a 3 book set)
Landeszeughaus Graz - They're basic guidebooks to the various floors of the museum, and give good closeups of the various peices.

"The Landeszeughaus of Graz"
Another guide book, this one covering everything in the armory, instead of focusing on one particuar group of items. I found this one useful due to the fact it has diffrent angles than the "armor book".

"Welt und Eisen - Waffen und Rustungen aus dem Zeughaus in Graz" Landesmuseum Joanneum. Printed by Springer WeinNewYork
A really good book showing LARGE pictures of armor and various joints, details and helms. A whole section just on eye-slits in helms. Kinda cool. Also included are weapon close-ups and a few artsy-type photos of armor.

I know I have a few others arond here, I have to find them....I'll post them as I dig them out.

Aaz