Is this basinet based on historical examples

brunoG · Post by **brunoG** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:24 pm

I have found this basinet online, if i'm not wong it is a deepeka piece.

Is it based on an actual helmet or is it a fantasy piece?

http://cgi.ebay.it/SCA-Helm-German-Bass ... dZViewItem

The lower part of the visor looks more like an item out of Star Wars but one never knows, the past can show some surprisingly modern facets.

brunoG · Post by **brunoG** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:35 pm

For example this is a basinet kept at Monselice (Padua)

More morbid lines though

Brian W. Rainey · Post by **Brian W. Rainey** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:51 pm

I have not seen an authentic bascinet like that.

brunoG · Post by **brunoG** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:02 pm

Brian W. Rainey wrote:I have not seen an authentic bascinet like that.

The one in Monselice is in the count Cini collection, I guess you mean the repro.

I find it very strange at best but I believe found somewhere that it was made on suggestion of a famous american vendor-reenactor.

Alcyoneus · Post by **Alcyoneus** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:35 pm

I think this is a second-cousin to the Pigs in Space helm.

It looks part standard India bascinet, and part Gladiator helm (the chin area).

Syrfinn · Post by **Syrfinn** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:39 pm

Nah, its the duck-billed platypus bascinet.

It does come close the the one in te collection, but looks like they got the point to small, so it stands out more.

Ivo · Post by **Ivo** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:36 pm

The term "dickhead" gets a whole new meaning with that bascinetoid :lol:

Brian W. Rainey · Post by **Brian W. Rainey** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:36 pm

brunoG wrote:
Brian W. Rainey wrote:I have not seen an authentic bascinet like that.

The one in Monselice is in the count Cini collection, I guess you mean the repro.

I find it very strange at best but I believe found somewhere that it was made on suggestion of a famous american vendor-reenactor.

Yep, I meant the goofy repro one.

brunoG · Post by **brunoG** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:37 am

I'm having a god laugh.

The Pigdick Fantasy Star Wars Bassinet is officially born.

Signo · Post by **Signo** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:15 am

It doesn't meet the requirements of shape and function.
It's oversimplified and this oversemplification make it a total crap.
There are plenty of flat spots facing the opponent, it would be too easy to thrust a point in the face with success.

brunoG · Post by **brunoG** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:59 am

Signo wrote:It doesn't meet the requirements of shape and function.
It's oversimplified and this oversemplification make it a total crap.
There are plenty of flat spots facing the opponent, it would be too easy to thrust a point in the face with success.

Not to mention the fact that stilistically it is eons away from anything antique.

Sometimes however we can vae surprises and find modern looking old tools.

BTW, have you considerd a trip to Monselice?

For me it is a great location for a reenacting event.

A marvellus castle on a hill.

It should be very close to my home and not too far from yours.

Signo · Post by **Signo** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:12 am

I always though that, everytime I pass nearby going to Padova, I plan to stop there sometime, but never had a chance until now.

Baron Alejandro · Post by **Baron Alejandro** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:56 am

Signo wrote:It doesn't meet the requirements of shape and function.
It's oversimplified and this oversemplification make it a total crap.
There are plenty of flat spots facing the opponent, it would be too easy to thrust a point in the face with success.

That was my thought. I'm no authority on faceplates, but I took one look at that repro and thought "Man! That would catch shots. No way." I'd *almost* rather go into a fight barefaced.