Hat's off to Halberd...

Padrig · Post by **Padrig** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:40 pm

...and anybody else that makes those panel type Norman helms. I just started to work in the shop a little after a long hiatus sp? and that was one of the project sitting on the shelf. The fitting and finishing is a pain in the butt. I even think I will just pass on the rivet construction and weld the darn thing.

Thanks for hearing me vent.

Pad

Padrig · Post by **Padrig** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:06 pm

I forgot, any pattern for liner/suspension online?

Thanks

Pad

Duco de Klonia · Post by **Duco de Klonia** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:09 am

Hey Padrig,

The first helmet I made was a Pioneer-style spangen...

Ok, to get the panels fit IS a major paine somewhere.

I made one (left unfinished) for the Hastings battle last year and did the following to make the panels fit:

- Make the panels,
- bow the (top of )panels to the inside,
- connect bottom rivetholes of the panels to spangen with screws
- heat the panel from the inside and hammer it down (from the inside) to fit the next pair of rivetholes.
-continue until the top of the panel also fits...

It works.

Medieval Miscreant · Post by **Medieval Miscreant** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:17 am

Padrig wrote:I forgot, any pattern for liner/suspension online?

Thanks

Pad

Steven Sheldon of Forth Armoury has this:

http://www.forth-armoury.com/photo_gall ... _liner.htm

Halberds · Post by **Halberds** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:25 am

Thanks Pad,

I like to make the bands first and bolt them together.
Pattern the panels in tinfoil, flatten them out and make a poster board pattern.

Dish the panels to fit the bands. The bottom edge is not dished it is curved to match the brow band. Camp and match drill. Bolt it all together at first.

Look at the spangen how to I did years ago to over on Arador, it has the suspension liner how to also.

Hal

Ps: This one is from my pattern on the archive pattern page.
It has some text how to also.
http://home.armourarchive.org/members/h ... norman.jpg

Padrig · Post by **Padrig** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:15 pm

Thanks for the tips and links. I will try and rivet it together. Hey, at least it's good practice.

Thanks again.

Pad

mercenary · Post by **mercenary** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:02 pm

That's the first and second kind of helm I made. So it's hard? What's easy?

Padrig · Post by **Padrig** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:11 pm

Sorry I wasn't more clear. I was comparing to other armour bits, not necessary helms.

Pad

mercenary · Post by **mercenary** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:17 pm

Oh, I see. By the way, I wish to make more armour, but hate to do it cold, yet that is the only option I have. What can I make other than spangens, pairs of plates and splinted stuff?

Dierick · Post by **Dierick** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:45 am

Mercenary wrote:Oh, I see. By the way, I wish to make more armour, but hate to do it cold, yet that is the only option I have. What can I make other than spangens, pairs of plates and splinted stuff?

I do almost everything I do cold. The only things I often heat for raising purposes are elbows, knees, and helm tops. Gauntlets, for one, require no heating unless you are doing something really elaborate. Hell, you can do an entire harness without heating anything if you dont mind some welded parts like elbows and helms. If you don't, $50 to a welder usually fixes that up for you if you dont have a welding machine.(some welders will do it for free on small parts, just because they are fascinated by what your doing)