Hosen Alternatives.....

Pietro da San Tebaldo · Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:29 am

I specifically shopped for a pair of sweat pants that didn't have pockets. Take out the elastic at the waist and the cuffs, then put 'em on inside-out. Have a friend take up a seam down the back of each leg until the fit is reasonably snug. Mark them. take them off, and sew the seam. After you finish the seam, put 'em back on to check for fit. Finish the foot with a stirrup - you'll have plenty of scrap to make a pair.

Finish the waist with either elastic, a drawstring, or a waistband with eyelets for pointing to a pourpoint.

For fighting, I use heavy woolen 'blankets' wound around the knee. (I've also worn lighter blankets wound over normal kneepads to camoflauge the modern gear.)

James B. · Post by **James B.** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:53 am

Why not just wear split hosen and a proper gown or livery to hide the fact they are not joined?

^ · Post by ^ » Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:18 am

Josh's Butt on hosen

http://www.mediumaevum.com/josh/KSU%20Demo%20031.jpg
http://www.mediumaevum.com/josh/Picture%20021.jpg
Profile
http://www.mediumaevum.com/josh/Picture%20019.jpg
Showing his crotch to God
http://www.mediumaevum.com/josh/Picture%20008.jpg

Josh's Butt in sweats.
http://www.mediumaevum.com/josh/ArmorbyRalph%20049.jpg
The Butt Flex
http://www.mediumaevum.com/josh/ArmorbyRalph%20046.jpg

Josh's Butt in jeans.
http://www.mediumaevum.com/josh/mybackplate5.jpg

MJBlazek · Post by **MJBlazek** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:19 am

Peder wrote:Josh's Butt on hosen

http://www.mediumaevum.com/josh/KSU%20Demo%20031.jpg
http://www.mediumaevum.com/josh/Picture%20021.jpg
Profile
http://www.mediumaevum.com/josh/Picture%20019.jpg
Showing his crotch to God
http://www.mediumaevum.com/josh/Picture%20008.jpg

Josh's Butt in sweats.
http://www.mediumaevum.com/josh/ArmorbyRalph%20049.jpg
The Butt Flex
http://www.mediumaevum.com/josh/ArmorbyRalph%20046.jpg

Josh's Butt in jeans.
http://www.mediumaevum.com/josh/mybackplate5.jpg

After seeing those pictures, I have to say, I think the sweats will work fine!
I also think I have seen to much of Josh's butt.

James.

Yet again it is a money issue..

Sweatpants $10.
Chauses, from revival $48.00
Chauses from HE $34.00

Also... Josh... where'd you get that "butt tasset?"

And your maille standard

^ · Post by ^ » Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:36 am

MJBlazek wrote:
After seeing those pictures, I have to say, I think the sweats will work fine!
I also think I have seen to much of Josh's butt.

The reason why most people are like oh you don't want to do sweat pants is because the ankles and people usually buy them too big. Those are both easily corrected. Does it make them wool hosen, no but that is the difference between costuming and making historical clothing is look vs reality.

MJBlazek · Post by **MJBlazek** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:57 am

Peder wrote:
MJBlazek wrote:
After seeing those pictures, I have to say, I think the sweats will work fine!
I also think I have seen to much of Josh's butt.

The reason why most people are like oh you don't want to do sweat pants is because the ankles and people usually buy them too big. Those are both easily corrected. Does it make them wool hosen, no but that is the difference between costuming and making historical clothing is look vs reality.

And thats really what I am going for. For practices, major melee battles and equestrian training/small events, I just want something that looks the part, but I am not going to cry about if I ruin them past repair, get them amazingly filthy beyond cleaning, and wont care if they only make it through one event. I would just feel horrible if a tore my good hosen at something like a practice.

For court, major tourneys, and demonstrations where I should be putting forth my best, I will wear my good hosen.

Tibbie Croser · Post by **Tibbie Croser** » Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:18 am

For smaller-sized men, or for women, one can find heavy cotton stirrup pants or stretchy workout pants at thrift stores in the ladies' section. This is what I'll be using until I make real hosen.

Alex Baird · Post by **Alex Baird** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:06 am

Maeryk wrote:I have a pair I am still wearing, that I bought at Pennsic.

Pennsic 21.

You may want to consider taking them off now.

IronwoodPotter · Post by **IronwoodPotter** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:26 am

Alex Baird wrote:
Maeryk wrote:I have a pair I am still wearing, that I bought at Pennsic.

Pennsic 21.

You may want to consider taking them off now.

And then burn them. Carefully. And apply for a Superfund clean-up grant.

Sgt. Heinrich · Post by **Sgt. Heinrich** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:41 pm

I was going to say you can also use Peder's suggestion of sweatpants and if your an early enough period just wrap your calves in winingas and no one is going to be able to tell anyway that they aren't hosen.

Tibbie Croser · Post by **Tibbie Croser** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:16 pm

The altered sweatpants look pretty decent, especially under leg armor. The main giveaway is that real joined hosen have no side seams, only a seam up the center back of each leg. Sweatpants and stretchy exercise pants have a seam at either side of the leg.

Someone mentioned moving the seam. How does one do that?

I suspect that, for myself, the next-best thing to real hosen would be to get oversize smooth-knit heavy tights and put in a seam up the back of each leg.

What's the link for Tyger Togs?