Steel Coronel,Solid Lance Tudor Joust at Kenilworth Castle.

Rod Walker · Post by **Rod Walker** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:39 am

Too cool for words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keBQhDvAVQU

lorenzo2 · Post by **lorenzo2** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:52 am

Agreed! I like that cloth covered cuirass especially. That suit would appear to be inspired by the existing early 15th century Spanish one. I can't remember off hand who it belonged to, one of the Charles perhaps? Anyway, thanks for sharing.

Fire Stryker · Post by **Fire Stryker** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:25 pm

Very nicely done. Had a bit of the "Knight's Tale" feel to it when I first heard the MC.

The fellow they have playing Henry looked pretty good, especially the morphing from painting to LH.

earnest carruthers · Post by **earnest carruthers** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:29 pm

I did smirk when the morph from Henry VIII to Griffin, quite unexpected, although he has portrayed young H at other times.

Philipe's kit looks nice.

chef de chambre · Post by **chef de chambre** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:29 pm

lorenzo2 wrote:Agreed! I like that cloth covered cuirass especially. That suit would appear to be inspired by the existing early 15th century Spanish one. I can't remember off hand who it belonged to, one of the Charles perhaps? Anyway, thanks for sharing.

It belonged to Phillip the Fair, and is more likely "Flemish", being listed among the armour brought with him to Spain in the earliest of the Reale Armeria records. Circa 1490-1500.

The Morion on the officer of the 'landesknechts bugged the hell out of me, as did some of the fabrics used, but otherwise a interesting spectacle, and the joust was nice!

lorenzo2 · Post by **lorenzo2** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:44 pm

Thanks for the additional information on the cloth covered cuirass Chef. I knew my recollections of the specifics on it were vague.

Lloyd · Post by **Lloyd** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:39 pm

You Basta**d - I was doing fine with my retirement and then you had to go and show me this

I will not joust...I will not joust...I will not joust...

Boomlaor · Post by **Boomlaor** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:47 pm

chef de chambre wrote:The Morion on the officer of the 'landesknechts bugged the hell out of me, as did some of the fabrics used, but otherwise a interesting spectacle, and the joust was nice!

Admittedly, I am a beginner in study about this time period, but what's the objection to a morion? I'd swear I've seen a painting of the embarcation of the Mary Rose which shows troops wearing Morions, and that would be at nearly the same time as this.

chef de chambre · Post by **chef de chambre** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:09 pm

The rest of the armours and clothing are 1520's, morions do not come about for several decades beyond that point - really, they would not be commonplace until the end of Henry's Reign.

Andrew McKinnon · Post by **Andrew McKinnon** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:05 pm

Very very sweet. Makes a nice change from the last quarter 15thC milanese harness which seems to proliferate jousting these days.

Hey Rod I think you really need one of those harnesses =)

He he he....

Jonny Deuteronomy · Post by **Jonny Deuteronomy** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:49 am

Enjoyed the video immensely.

Rittmeister Frye · Post by **Rittmeister Frye** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:25 pm

Cool stuff. I love the panoply that they bring to it. The only major "WTF?" for me though was the woman packing the halberd. Just incongruous for the era. But the whole was very nice. Love the shattering of the solid lances!

Cheers!

Gordon

earnest carruthers · Post by **earnest carruthers** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:12 pm

"The only major "WTF?" for me though was the woman packing the halberd."

Same.

I might email Henry and ask why.

Destichado · Post by **Destichado** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:08 pm

Oh? Huh... that's odd. :wink:

Rittmeister Frye · Post by **Rittmeister Frye** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:05 am

Destichado wrote:Oh? Huh... that's odd.

I'm sure it was done in some context or another, but as part of a Royal Guard, an unlikely happenstance I would wager. Of course too, it's well known that lots of women carried babies around, but probably not out in public if they valued the baby. A Royal babe especially would be safely and cozily sequestered in a nursery.

That being said, I still enjoyed the video, and applaud the people taking part in it.

Cheers!

Gordon

earnest carruthers · Post by **earnest carruthers** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:06 am

I contacted a key player and they said it was basically a low budget do and had to make the best of it, which they seemed to.

David Teague · Post by **David Teague** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:33 am

Would that doer be...

Mark Griffin? (AKA King Henry VIII at this event)

I had the pleasure of working with him at the American Sword of Chivalry Tournament a few weeks ago and learning about his Lving history company.

Cheers,

David

earnest carruthers · Post by **earnest carruthers** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:48 am

Yes him indeed.

He said he had major jet lag after that event.

How was it, fun?

David Teague · Post by **David Teague** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:13 pm

For this Alaskan Yank, it was quite fun...

I'd never been able to see jousting first hand before but was able to jump in feet first with a very high quality event ( I believe it was the most historic & correct 15th century style joust ever held in the US to date)

It kinda set the bar pretty high for me for any further jousting events. :wink:

It was a lot of hard work for all involved. The set up crew & take down crew was the same people on the field during the event (including Griff & the jousters) so we all worked from the time we hit the ground until we had to catch our flights home.

Cheers,

David

earnest carruthers · Post by **earnest carruthers** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:27 am

Excellent, glad to hear it Dave,

I have worked with Griff at two of this three Tower jousts as a minion, once as scorer at 90 degrees to the tilt rail and I only then fully appreciated the work and training that went into what they do.

"It kinda set the bar pretty high for me for any further jousting events. "

Indeed mate, all the usual nylon knights, hollywoodesque feeble fighting etc has paled into insignificance. As someone not really into horses, but more than happy to seem being worked, I was thoroughly impressed.

As well as the training, the kit standards were very high, very decent harnesses in use, all fully functional.

Am looking forward to the next one in August.

You never know Dave, one day you might be flying over the water to do similar, at which point a few beers may well be quaffed ;-)