New toy from Patrick - Yet another armourer review

draenoor · Post by **draenoor** » Wed May 21, 2003 8:40 pm

This is my second sallet from Patrick Thaden, and I have to say he came through yet again. This helm is a work of art. It fits perfectly with the right amount of padding that I asked him to allow room for. He built this helm from 3 very small pics that I sent him, and it is just like it in nearly every detail (except that it's blued). If you are looking for a helm that is historically accurate for a good price, and not a wait of 5 years, definately drop him a line. Next up, hopefully, is a Maximillian cuirass and if it turns out even half as nice as the sallet, I will be very happy.

Thanks again Patrick.

Here is a picture. It really does not do the helmet justice. The pic made the blueing look almost black, but it is actually dark blue and purple: http://www.streetrodsunlimited.com/sallet.jpg

Otto von Teich · Post by **Otto von Teich** » Wed May 21, 2003 10:49 pm

Thats sweet! I've always liked the bellows visor, Looks like he did a great job with it. The blueing adds a nice touch. Could you post a pic from the side with the visor down?...Otto

white mountain armoury · Thu May 22, 2003 6:31 am

more pics please, Patrics sallets are quite nice

William Frisbee · Post by **William Frisbee** » Thu May 22, 2003 8:19 am

Yeah, what WMA said.

One image of that sallet is like a cute blonde in a bar smiling at you and then walking out!

draenoor · Post by **draenoor** » Thu May 22, 2003 10:57 am

I know! I am workin on it. My camera fritzed out after 2 pics, and the first one was all blurry. I'll take more tonite

Cassius the Rabbit · Post by **Cassius the Rabbit** » Thu May 22, 2003 2:07 pm

Looks great, I got mine finished from Patrick last weekend and I love it now. He made some modifications on the widening the visor slot and rounding the corners on the bevor to make it more SCA friendly so I will be able to try it out this weekend at Steppes XXX and hopefully get PICS on after that

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Sir Alrek Kanin
or just plain 'ol Rabbit

draenoor · Post by **draenoor** » Thu May 22, 2003 9:18 pm

Here are a few more pics. The bluing realy bends the light in a funky way, but trust me, the lines are straight!

http://www.streetrodsunlimited.com/sallet2.jpg

http://www.streetrodsunlimited.com/sallet3.jpg

http://www.streetrodsunlimited.com/sallet4.jpg

http://www.streetrodsunlimited.com/sallet5.jpg

[This message has been edited by draenoor (edited 05-22-2003).]

Halberds · Post by **Halberds** » Thu May 22, 2003 10:02 pm

Ohhhhhh Armour Bob........... :-)

Big smile.
Kudos; cool helm.

Patrick Thaden · Post by **Patrick Thaden** » Fri May 23, 2003 12:40 am

Glad it made it and your happy. Thanks for all the kind words. I'll drop you an email about the cuirass. Patrick

Jantien van Vranckenvoert · Fri May 23, 2003 12:41 pm

Arnour Bob,
Geez I've been trying to get in touch with you...where can I send an email?
Or you can just email me at jentien@aol.com.

Jen, who used to live in Denton.

William Frisbee · Post by **William Frisbee** » Fri May 23, 2003 12:59 pm

Good god, that is one fine looking helm.

Vermin · Post by **Vermin** » Fri May 23, 2003 1:02 pm

Nice job on that hat!

If I may nitpick just a tiny bit....
(Forgive me, the original that's based on is one my favorite helms in the world!...)

Needs more "sweep" where the head meets the neck in the back, it's too flat, in my eyes at least.
I did an italian sallet copy, and that's where *I* should have taken a bit more time, so don't think I'm being high-horsed!
(grin)

Still, I'd have no problems with wearing it!
That blued finish is evil!
I'd like to see that hat with a blued almain rivet harness....man, would that be sweet....

You're one lucky dog.

VvS

Magmaforge · Post by **Magmaforge** » Sat May 24, 2003 4:57 am

can you post pics of the original? Draenoor? Vermin?
Patrick, very nice work. Keep at it.

Derian le Breton · Post by **Derian le Breton** » Sat May 24, 2003 12:40 pm

Wow. I don't know much about this period, but that sure is a beautful helm

-Donasian.

draenoor · Post by **draenoor** » Sat May 24, 2003 10:28 pm

The pics I sent to Patrick were from http://www.bestarmour.com/salir1.htm

It is the very first helm.

I am unsure exactly where the historical sample is, but Patrick may know.

Raibeart Lok De la Haye · Sat May 24, 2003 11:28 pm

beautiful

Torum · Post by **Torum** » Mon May 26, 2003 6:58 pm

just a quick question , could you tell me how you did your bluing??it is fantastic!! you can drop me an email if you prefer,
troy@ikillclowns.com
thanks
Torum The Hasty

Patrick Thaden · Post by **Patrick Thaden** » Tue May 27, 2003 12:39 am

There are a couple surviving I believe, I don't recall where all they are, but the most commonly seen pieceis in the wallace collection. Another strange one is in brescia, and there is atleast one other complete one, not sure where right now. there are also a number of visors that that have survived. As far as the blueing, I just used a tradional heat blueing, clean the piece and heat it to about 525 deg F. and oil when it is cool enough not to burn the oil. Patrick

Hubert · Post by **Hubert** » Tue May 27, 2003 12:40 pm

Very nice job. I was lucky enough to meet Patrick and see a display of his work this past weekend at Steppes Warlord (or would that be Waterlord, hope your stuff didn't get washed away) and I must say everything out there was very nice.

Patrick, not sure if you remember, I was the big guy talking to you about a 13C sugar loaf with moveable visor that I'm interested in commissioning. I grabbed one of your cards and will be in touch as soon as I find out how much it's going to cost to get my back fixed.

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Hubert d'AiguÃ«s-Mortes
Evil Denizen #53