Combat of Thirty/Outrance rules cont.

[Galleron]

My suggestion:

Two handed edge blows have no effect against plate or brigantine torso armor, and count as one good blow against the head or other protection.

Single handed edge blows have no effect against any plate but the helmet, and count as a good blow against the head or lesser protection elsewhere.

Thrusts have no effect against any plate except for plate helmet visors or faceplates, count as one good blow against these or mail, and a disabling blow against barred visors and lesser protection.

Disabled combatants can no longer fight, reset after a pause as they can with good blows, or move under their own power. They are effectively permanently stunned. Disabling blows to the eyes, throat, body cavity, groin or inner thigh may also be fatal depending on the scenario.

Spears were a major part of the weapons mix at the actual battle. Allow the use of spears of up to nine feet in length.

Allow shields of realistic weight and appearance.

Being killed should be at least as costly as being captured for the person that experiences it. I suggest that all those killed pay heriot (feudal death duty), equivalent to what they would have paid as ransom, to Joanna, Duchesse of Burgundy. Then, after the Combat of the Thirty there will be another deed of arms, which only the survivors can take part in. The heriot payments from the CoT will serve as prizes.

Some of the logic behind the rules is here:

http://willscommonplacebook.blogspot.co ... %20Weapons

[Baron Alejandro]

Master Galleron,

Most SCA type spears look like beer coozies on the end of a stick. Which, of course, they are. Are there any specific guidelines that you recommend for a spear that wouldn't look out of place at the Thirty, and yet still fulfill the rules of the marshallate?

It was good to see you at that vigil at Pennsic. Hope you're doing well.

A

[Baron Conal]

On the spear and the CoP; the Weapons that made Britian show on armor did a fantastic test on a man with a lance on horse vs a CoP; as I recall even at full speed the spear barely went through the proper 3 layers of plate, maille, and padding. The amount it went through would create a cut not a large wound.

What about the impact damage?

Even of it does not puncture how much force is transferred
and how much injury would that cause? Once the penetration
stops the rest of the force goes somewhere....

[Galleron]

Master Galleron,

Most SCA type spears look like beer coozies on the end of a stick. Which, of course, they are. Are there any specific guidelines that you recommend for a spear that wouldn't look out of place at the Thirty, and yet still fulfill the rules of the marshallate?

It was good to see you at that vigil at Pennsic. Hope you're doing well.

A

Glad you asked:

http://willscommonplacebook.blogspot.co ... pears.html

[Henry of Bexley]

Conal,

I imagine a LOT of the force would be bled out of the blow by puncturing two layers of steel. Yeah, you might get knocked off your horse, but the fall would be more dangerous than the blow, I would think.

[Baron Alejandro]

Glad you asked:

http://willscommonplacebook.blogspot.co ... pears.html

Dat's-a verrah nice!