New supply of steel for my shop.

Halberds · Post by **Halberds** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:46 pm

Hello metal pounders,

I just got back from the steel yard with Over $400.00 worth of new steel for tools.

Any one need any tools?

Perhaps I could whip something up while working on my Flute-O-Matic machine.

I am also developing a base to support the 1" solid square stock tools.
Should be rapid tool change.
I hope an offset ball will work in it also.
I will be sure and show some pics of my new tools.

Thank you for your support.

Hal

Harp · Post by **Harp** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:10 pm

I do.

Been studying armouring for a year with a good teacher, but I have no tools. I need hammers, stakes, the works. Whatca recommend?

Harp

Halberds · Post by **Halberds** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:35 pm

I would recommend these basic start up tools.

This will allow one to dish and planish helms, spaulders, knees and elbows.

Next would be some fluting tools and an anticlastic Y-stake stake for more advanced projects.

Hal

es02 · Post by **es02** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:38 pm

Hal,

I have a hardwood stump for dishing, a 3Lb dishing hammer (although i'll probably end up using something lighter and a ball stake.

How much for a planishing hammer, a raising hammer and a basic t-stake? Inc uninsured international shipping to .au?

What other tools would you suggest?

SyrTheo · Post by **SyrTheo** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:39 pm

Do you make top and bottom swages for use in an H-Frame for hemispheres??

Thx, Theo

Leonard · Post by **Leonard** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:08 pm

i need a good planishing hammer!

Wulfgar · Post by **Wulfgar** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:30 pm

es02 wrote:Hal,

I have a hardwood stump for dishing, a 3Lb dishing hammer (although i'll probably end up using something lighter and a ball stake.

How much for a planishing hammer, a raising hammer and a basic t-stake? Inc uninsured international shipping to .au?

What other tools would you suggest?

I've got a good range of Hals tools, I highly recommend his dish and hammer. He has some really good planishing mushrooms too. Probably the tool I use the most from Hal is actually a mounted railway spike which I got as part of his newbie tool kit.

I wouldn't mind getting a t steal and somthing like a bic horn as well.

Halberds · Post by **Halberds** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:21 am

es02,

If the weight is under 20 pounds flat rate international shipping is $38.00
Planishing hammer______$25.00
Raising hammer________$35.00
I need to know more requirements on your T stake.
However if it will not fit in the flat rate box, shipping is going to be high.

Leonard,

Eastwood Co. has a sale on hammers now.
The 11856 makes a good planishing hammer and is only $10.00
However, I always reface and polish my hammers to a mirror finish.
http://www.eastwoodco.com/images/us//lo ... p23044.jpg
I can not provide one at that price.

SyrTheo,

I made these for Stonekeep Armory, you might ask him how they worked out.
http://home.armourarchive.org/members/h ... meKits.jpg
I do not use a press.

Thank you for your interest.

Hal

Sean Powell · Post by **Sean Powell** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:53 pm

Hal,
Have you thought about a tool similar to this? I was working on a Valsgrad-6 recently and needed to kludge together a few different tools at different times. If I had had a welder (and maybe a lathe) I would have built something like this. (If you don't have a lathe then see if you can find a tight pipe in pipe fitting).

Valley for chiseling into for creases.
Fork that is wide and long enough to insert a dished spangen helm band and tweak to perfect oval.
One long arm to hammer certain plates over.
Possibly round over the single long end to a small planishing ball or more importantly a drop straight into the top of the helm rivet peener.

Hmmm there was one other function. It might have been a depression for supporting domed rivet heads while peening but that would have to be on the ends which wouldn't be as useful.

If I was doing ANOTHER V-6 (I'm on my 4th) or a lot of spangens or creased parts I would comission a tool like this. At the moment thought I don't need it. Sorry. Thought you might like the idea anyway.

Sean

Halberds · Post by **Halberds** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:43 pm

Thanks for the tool pic Sean. Very cool.

How big around are the bars?
I have 12ft. of 2â€

es02 · Post by **es02** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:14 pm

Halberds wrote:I need to know more requirements on your T stake.
However if it will not fit in the flat rate box, shipping is going to be high.

*waves his arms around a bit in a nebulous fashion*

A basic T-stake at a good generic size for raising. At this point I don't have enough experience using them to know how big I need one, however based on the quotes Cat was giving me for non-flat-rate shipping It's probably going to be easier for me to buy a cheap arc welder, learn to weld and then knock one up myself

Hammers look like they are in my price-range though. DO WANT

audax · Post by **audax** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:46 pm

Halberds wrote:I would recommend these basic start up tools.

This will allow one to dish and planish helms, spaulders, knees and elbows.

Next would be some fluting tools and an anticlastic Y-stake stake for more advanced projects.

Hal

I bet if i purchased that kit, I could be evicted from my apartment in a about a week, what with all the cursing and punding that would ensue.

es02 · Post by **es02** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:53 pm

audax wrote:
I bet if i purchased that kit, I could be evicted from my apartment in a about a week, what with all the cursing and pounding that would ensue.

Heavy sand. mount the doughnut onto a lump of hardwood and place on thick scraps of old carpet, complete the dish the doughnut makes with thick sand, it'll help muffle the noise your making.

Jean Paul de Sens · Post by **Jean Paul de Sens** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:48 pm

Hal, how much would you charge for an anticlastic y stake?

JP

audax · Post by **audax** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:51 pm

es02 wrote:
audax wrote:
I bet if i purchased that kit, I could be evicted from my apartment in a about a week, what with all the cursing and pounding that would ensue.

Heavy sand. mount the doughnut onto a lump of hardwood and place on thick scraps of old carpet, complete the dish the doughnut makes with thick sand, it'll help muffle the noise your making.

Hmmm....what about the cursing? I can't make anything if i can't swear at it at least once.

es02 · Post by **es02** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:54 pm

audax wrote:Hmmm....what about the cursing? I can't make anything if i can't swear at it at least once.

Hmm... I'd suggest a ball-gag or something but that is a bit kinky

Dunno, scream in your head?

Sean Powell · Post by **Sean Powell** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:01 am

Halberds wrote:Thanks for the tool pic Sean. Very cool.

How big around are the bars?

Well they don't have to be too large and if they are very large they will keep you from making creases too close together... but the gap in the fork needs to be large enough to fit a spangen band after dishing or maybe get inside an arm hole with a roll or a flare. I would think that 1" dia round stock would be good with the ends turned down to 3/4" dia. That would leave a 1/4" gap in the fork.

Ps: I will work on the rivet peener for way down in the bottom of the helm.
I just use a small ball peen and a flick of the wrist, however that gets tiring.
But on a V-6 it would be excessive.

For deep rivets I often pick up my small planishing stake, invert and gorrilla club straight down on the rivets if I can't get to them with a hammer. I have been debating taking a heavy ball peen and cutting the square end off so I get a ball tipped dog-head hammer. That would leave more space to swing it.

Either way the rivets in the V6 kit are all about 1/16 of an inch longer then they need to be. It's always a trade off of clipping or grinding them to a length that is faster/easier to peen or just beating the crap out of them inthil they are the right shape.

Sean

AaronCarter · Post by **AaronCarter** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:13 am

Audax, if you use the right words, are loud enough, and pound realllllyyy hard, Your neighbors will be too scared to complain.