Ymir Format

Baron Gaston · Post by **Baron Gaston** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:11 pm

So after long debate I think the format that I have chose will appeal to the largest number of fighters. Here it is

This year we are going with a keep it simple motto, we are going to run 3 lists (the number of lists is subject to change based on the number of fighters) each list will fight its own round robin tourney with no weapons restrictions. The top from each of the list along with the King and Princesâ€™ choice will go on to fight in a final double elimination to determine the overall winner of the day.

Itâ€™s simple, 3 separate lists with no crossovers means you always know what list you are on.

Everyone gets in a long day of fighting. Youâ€™ll get to fight everyone on your list.

Everyone brings whatever weapons form makes them happy, means no round shield unless it makes you happy!

Final fight with the best of the best of the day, which makes the AR people happy

And on top of ALL OF THAT

Heavy gets the full 100 x 50 fighting eric this year, rapier will be on a separate field, so you have room to move and more room for pavilions.

I hope this sounds as exciting to you as it does to me.

Gaston

Broadway · Post by **Broadway** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:38 pm

You're the coolest dude on the block Gaston.

Melrakki · Post by **Melrakki** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:19 pm

Ok, sounds good. But if my math is right there will be 5 in the double elimination? Or am I missing something?

Baron Gaston · Post by **Baron Gaston** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:14 pm

Melrakki

you are so good, donâ€™t worry about the math I'll swing it. let me spalin so you donâ€™t think I am nuts. If there are 6 lists then I take the top guy and 2 royal pics, alternatively if there are 3 lists then I take the top 2 guys and 2 royal picks, or if there are 4 lists then I could take the top guy from each list, plus the 2 royal picks and give the visiting royals each a pic OR I could have the finial D elimination be 16 and not 8.

See it all depends on the number lists that we run in the 100 x 50 foot eric. We have been running 4 lists in half that amount of space. The number of lists we run will depend on the number of fighters I get that day which I wonâ€™t know till . . . well that day.

The key to running this tourney is have a simple plan that you can communicate, that is rigid enough so that people will know what they can expect and flexible enough to change with the numbers.

You come to the event and do two things, shake my hand, cause I miss you and kick ass because I expect it of you and for my part I'll make the numbers work so that everyone fights lots more than many of them are used too, that the finals work smooth as silk and I'll do it all in under 5 hours

Melrakki · Post by **Melrakki** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:28 pm

My Great Baron,

I will be at Ymir so I will shake your hand. Then I will enjoy the tournament that you will be running. I have always had a good time at Ymir. I trust in your math. All will be fine. If people have a problem, have them come talk to me. :twisted:

blackbow · Post by **blackbow** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:33 am

Gaston:

you do realize that a round robin means you're going to have something like a minimum of fifteen fights per person?

I can do that. There are a few other people that can do that.

Don't be all that shocked if you end up with a lot of "declare a tie" or "retire from the field" in a lot of fights though.

JB

Broadway · Post by **Broadway** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:45 am

Johnney Blackbow...

Apex of Humility...

Paragon of modesty...

Champion of all that is unpretentious.

blackbow wrote:Gaston:

you do realize that a round robin means you're going to have something like a minimum of fifteen fights per person?

I can do that. There are a few other people that can do that.

Don't be all that shocked if you end up with a lot of "declare a tie" or "retire from the field" in a lot of fights though.

JB

Baron Gaston · Post by **Baron Gaston** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:23 pm

JB,

Thank you, but yes I am aware that in a round robin tourney one fights all the fighters in their list.

People will fight until they donâ€™t want to fight anymore, then drop out.

I would say the same thing to you that I did to Melrakki which is the number of fights one is presented with will depend on the number of lists that we run, which will depend on the overall numbers of the day.

You come have a good day and fight, and Iâ€™ll do the on the fly math that morning when I see how many fighters we have.

Gaston

Ewan · Post by **Ewan** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:24 pm

Cool, sounds like Ursalmas out here. The worst part is waiting for your fight...

Ewan
(who is jacked for Ursalmas even though he hasn't touched his sword or even tried on his new armour yet.... did I mention the tourney is this weekend?)
:-)

blackbow · Post by **blackbow** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:47 am

I guess what I'm asking is (1) are you going to allow people to take a round off and come back, or are you going to say "once you sit, you're out"? (2) are double no-shows going to count as double losses, or ties?

JB

Baron Gaston wrote:JB,

Thank you, but yes I am aware that in a round robin tourney one fights all the fighters in their list.

People will fight until they donâ€™t want to fight anymore, then drop out.

I would say the same thing to you that I did to Melrakki which is the number of fights one is presented with will depend on the number of lists that we run, which will depend on the overall numbers of the day.

You come have a good day and fight, and Iâ€™ll do the on the fly math that morning when I see how many fighters we have.

Gaston

Dietrich von Stroheim · Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:59 am

I wanted to write and thank Baron Gaston and the people of Atlantia for such a fun time this weekend. My lady and I both decided that was the most we've enjoyed an SCA event, to date!

The format for the tourney ended up being perfect IMO, and the caliber of fighters that you guys produce in Atlantia is nothing short of awesome. Hard-hitting, fun-loving and best of all no-whining...I have to come play with you guys more often.

Cheers,

Dietrich

BdeB · Post by **BdeB** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:19 pm

Many thanks to Baron Gaston for an excellent tourney, inspite of the awful field contidions (out of his control). I enjoyed my day very much and was only saddened that my daughter's 'done' level was reached before I could stay for pick ups.

Vivats Windmaster's Hill and Gaston!

Balin D'Acier · Post by **Balin D'Acier** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:29 pm

Your Exellency,

I echo the words of my good Baron de Byram. For my first 1v1 tournament ever (only previous other tourney experience being this years 3-man at Ice Castles), I'm glad I chose your Ymir. Being able to know who I would be fighting, not needing to trudge across the field to where I left such and such of my gear, etc. these were well thought out.

I expect there will be many tourneys in my future where the thought crosses my mind, "I wish they'd done this like Ymir..."

Thank you for a great time.

Melrakki · Post by **Melrakki** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:09 pm

I too would like to thank Baron Gaston for the tournament. The fighting was fun and hard. The way I like it. Maybe next year my knee wont want to give out. My thanks to all the fighters that I crossed swords with. I hope to see you all soon.

Pietro di Trento · Post by **Pietro di Trento** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:35 pm

I would like to echo everyone else this was my first big tourney and I had a great time I met some awesome fighters, and great people in general, I look forward to next years

Apollonian · Post by **Apollonian** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:16 am

Gaston,

Awesome with awesome sauce and a side of incredible infused with awesome.

I remember in my list feeling bad because a newer guy had lost both of his first fights, then I remembered he had 9 more fights to go. Everybody won at least one. One knight went undefeated, barely. Every fighter was sorely tested. Spirits were very high.

We have both struggled with this tourney for almost 15 years. YOU found what I believe is the best format yet, and a format I believe will endure. It is tough on the MOL staff, and we will need another 7-8 lists next year, but this format facilitated almost 1,000 fights. Really -- do the math. It is safe to say that this Ymir had more fighting than any other in its history. BTW, field conditions down the hill were exacerbated by the fact that we were beating the shit out of the field. Every list had at least 130 fights on it. Some large double elim tourneys don't see that much fight.

That is a significant accomplishment, Gaston. Best fighting format for Ymir, ever.

Falcone

blackbow · Post by **blackbow** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:50 am

I was going to write something similar but i'm lazy and Falcone said it, so i'll just say

+1

JB

Apollonian wrote:Gaston,

Awesome with awesome sauce and a side of incredible infused with awesome.

I remember in my list feeling bad because a newer guy had lost both of his first fights, then I remembered he had 9 more fights to go. Everybody won at least one. One knight went undefeated, barely. Every fighter was sorely tested. Spirits were very high.

We have both struggled with this tourney for almost 15 years. YOU found what I believe is the best format yet, and a format I believe will endure. It is tough on the MOL staff, and we will need another 7-8 lists next year, but this format facilitated almost 1,000 fights. Really -- do the math. It is safe to say that this Ymir had more fighting than any other in its history. BTW, field conditions down the hill were exacerbated by the fact that we were beating the shit out of the field. Every list had at least 130 fights on it. Some large double elim tourneys don't see that much fight.

That is a significant accomplishment, Gaston. Best fighting format for Ymir, ever.

Falcone